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To: Gaffer; nathanbedford
Absolutely the wrong approach. This is what continues to make me have suspicions about Cruz. When you tack this on to unrelated crap, it makes it soooooo easy to override the amendment for the "purity" of the bill. This will go nowhere, and Cruz knows it. Here is specifically how you deal with all this:

Iran: NO! The place to stop this was in stopping the Corker Bill, which Cruz voted FOR. There is an easy way to stop this friggin' treaty: KILL IT IN THE SENATE, where Cruz is a member. Here's the bottom line. If Cruz doesn't have enough influence, smarts, ability to get a vote against this treaty in the Senate, then he's not going to be an effective president.

Obamacare: NO! Introduce a simple repeal Obamacare bill. I'm stunned that NO ONE in either the House or the Senate has done this yet. It's the quickest way to get everyone on record as for or against Obamacare with no other camoflage.

On and on. This is the most ineffectual ways to try to do anything because they will just override each amendment in part then pass the original bill and say, "Oh, I voted against that because it was a highway bill, not the treaty."

13 posted on 07/22/2015 7:28:45 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS
Your points are well taken, they in fact echo the thrust of my reply. In other words, I agree Cruz will get nowhere with this tactic but I am not necessarily in agreement that he ought not to try. I fear your solutions will not be tried either and then we are left to decide whether it is better to try that which will not work or nothing at all.


14 posted on 07/22/2015 7:34:21 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: LS; nathanbedford

We differ - greatly. We have tried tactical, strategic and all forms of in-between tactics and they have been for naught. Our leadership is morally and ethically compromised in every aspect of what they profess to be.

Right now, all I’m looking for during the remainder of Obama’s tenure is to keep money out of his hands that helps him to further destroy us. Frankly, the incrementalism of your suggested approach is just another form of limited bargaining that starts out with the premise the people you are dealing with are open to compromise, are trustworthy and will do what they say. They have shown they won’t. They won’t even obey current laws. No. Not in my world. Not ever. No money, no new power, no quarter.


15 posted on 07/22/2015 7:35:13 AM PDT by Gaffer
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