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To: LS; nathanbedford

We differ - greatly. We have tried tactical, strategic and all forms of in-between tactics and they have been for naught. Our leadership is morally and ethically compromised in every aspect of what they profess to be.

Right now, all I’m looking for during the remainder of Obama’s tenure is to keep money out of his hands that helps him to further destroy us. Frankly, the incrementalism of your suggested approach is just another form of limited bargaining that starts out with the premise the people you are dealing with are open to compromise, are trustworthy and will do what they say. They have shown they won’t. They won’t even obey current laws. No. Not in my world. Not ever. No money, no new power, no quarter.


15 posted on 07/22/2015 7:35:13 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Cruz is the a smart, persistent and conservative.

He would be the only Republican President who would undo the evil that Obama has unlashed on the country.


16 posted on 07/22/2015 7:44:28 AM PDT by Oak Grove
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To: Gaffer
It is hardly to be expected that the same establishment Rinos who lack the moral fiber even to negotiate small victories with Obama will somehow find the courage to deny him or his government funds. In fact, that has been tried before and tried by Cruz and earned him only opprobrium from his own side.

We are in very close agreement in our assessment of the character of the Republican establishment. Make no mistake about that. We are simply arguing tactics about whether more leverage can be brought against them with Ted Cruz's ploy rather than some other approach.

Try them all.

Among the "all" to be tried includes article 5.


17 posted on 07/22/2015 7:45:22 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Gaffer

I fail to see how this in any way addresses any of that. Quite the contrary, Cruz has provided a smokescreen for anyone to say “Well, I wanted to stop Obamacare/Iran, but the bill I voted for was a highway bill. I never had a chance to vote on a Repeal Obamacare bill because it never came up.”


24 posted on 07/22/2015 8:56:15 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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