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Posted on 07/21/2015 9:50:36 PM PDT by Dallas59
How does ordering a woman out of her car for a traffic stop become “lawful”?
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And you’ll be in jail.
Apparently it excites you to see people go to jail for any reason.
Your incorrect conclusion.
He was going to extract her from her car. That’s why he wanted the cigarette put out. He didn’t want to get burned with it. Standard procedure.
The cop was on a leftist smoke nazi power trip
Many people mention that the police no longer resemble police from their childhood. Could it be that the criminal element that has invaded our society has gotten far more brutal than anything we could ever have imagined years ago? It has become almost a war zone in parts of our country.
I don’t know if it was a lawful order, but I certainly would not have been willing to antagonize a police officer over that particular order.
That just gives the lie to the notion that “we don’t have to obey unlawful orders from law enforcement”. Which means we are effectively less free than soldiers in the military, even though we never signed away any of our freedoms.
“You are not allowed to say [or think],....”
What country do you live in? This is the U.S.A., we can think and say whatever the hell we want.
More like the cop had a bad attitude about the woman’s nasty attitude. Attitude is not against the law. Give her the ticket and get on your way, man.
There are a zillion nasty people with bad attitudes in America now. Democrats have brought out the hater in millions of people. Are we going to arrest them all?
Yeah, this is the dashcam. There was a person from a distance who recorded it with his/her phone. That came out several days ago. The cop yelled at him/her and told him to stop recording.
That was part of his sensitivity training. If the subject is upset and a minority or illegal alien, you're supposed to let them go. /s
I get the the /s, but if you stop someone for something trivial and then you ask them are they upset, you probably should expect something like what he got and act professionally not like a bully when you get the expected response. Instead he turned a warning into an arrest, you think that is good police work?
And I would remind you the cop is already under suspension over it.
I have shown in the law, in the media and in pictures how a cigarette can most certainly be used as a dangerous weapon.
It doesn’t matter at all if you think it’s a stretch.
That’s why he told the irritated woman to extinguish it.
Police routinely tell people to extinguish cigarettes.
It’s a lawful order.
As soon as she disobeyed his order, she was subject to arrest, which she then resisted.
It’s really that simple.
No, she turned a warning into an arrest.
Smokers tend to light up in times of stress. It helps keep them calm.
It is hard to think of a group of people who are subjected to more hounding and harassment from the media, the workplace, to non-smokers driving them out of jobs, bars, restaurants, and public buildings with not so much as a designated smoking area left in many cases--even the ones who thought it was reasonable to have non-smoking areas (often with separate HVAC systems to keep the smoke out around here).
Anyone who has ever had people start coughing upwind from them as they pulled the cigarette out of the pack (still not lit) and whining about the smoke is going to be a mite defensive over the few places they are still permitted to smoke, among them their vehicle.
And all this while pot is being legalized, often in jurisdictions where tobacco is treated as the cause of all evil. That places a chip on many smokers' shoulders, and in their own space (vehicle) most will damned well smoke if they please.
Sorry, but the policeman should not have even gone there, especially during a traffic stop. If he had had her come back and sit in the police vehicle, that is his turf, his rules. In her car, another matter.
A polite request would be one thing, but an order under color of law is well over the top if there is no immediate combustion hazard.
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