Posted on 07/20/2015 12:02:47 PM PDT by Kevin C
Donald Trump said Saturday that "I am not sure that I have" ever asked God for forgiveness, telling the 2015 Iowa Family Leadership Summit that "I just go on and try to do a better job from there.
"I don't think so," Trump, who is Presbyterian, said in response to the question from pollster and summit host Frank Luntz. Trump was among 10 Republican presidential candidates at the daylong event in Ames, Iowa.
"If I do something wrong, I think I just try to make it right," Trump said. "I don't bring God into that picture. I don't. "When we go into church — and when I drink my little wine, which is about the only wine I drink, and have my little cracker — I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness. I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed, OK? "But, to me, that is important," Trump said. "In terms of officially, I could tell you absolutely. I don't think in terms of that. I think in terms of, 'Let's go on and let's make it right.'"
When Luntz first asked the question, Trump said that he was Presbyterian and that his pastor was the Rev. Norman Vincent Peale, the author and longtime pastor of Marble Collegiate Church in New York City. He died in 1993 at 95 years old. "That's a tough question," is how Trump began his initial response. "I am a religious person. I'm Protestant. I'm Presbyterian. People are so shocked and they find this out. "I go to church. I love God — and I love my church," he added. "The great Norman Vincent Peale was my pastor. He was so great. He would give a sermon, and you'd never want to leave."
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Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Trump’s father’s middle name was Christ? The Donald figures he’s part of the family.
Apparently, you didn't grow up in the largest Christian Church on the planet. You wouldn't have said something this profoundly ill-informed if you had.
I assume you're referring to the Catholic Church.
If maintaining feelings of guilt were so "useful," it seems a little counterintuitive to freely offer absolution to all your members.
A much better way to use guilt for social control would be to only allow absolution to a select few who are chosen on the basis of how obedient to the leaders they are.
This is the standard practice in anti-Christian systems like Scientology and Communism.
“Getting a standing ovation at a conference is much, much different than getting a lot of votes from committed conservative Christians.”
Who do you think was sitting in the audience of a “Family Values Summit” Satanic followers?
Who are you to demand I should explain things to?
Your original statement was completely incoherent, so I asked for an explanation.
Bit tetchy, eh?
“Getting a standing ovation at a conference is much, much different than getting a lot of votes from committed conservative Christians.”
You don’t like Trump with or without the phony religious attacks he is now suffering. The Donald is more like Job of late, attacked from all sides and in so many ways. Trump says he’s Christian and always has been, he loves God, attends Church, and he’s been on the stump accusing Obama for doing nothing to help the defenseless Christians caught up in the Middle East wars.
Trump wants the Christians brought here to the U.S. to protect them, not the millions of Muslim refugees Obama is currently bringing in, many who could have terrorist ties. So, a Christian who loves God and wants to protect Christians in other war torn lands. That is what Trump is. What more do you want?
The man was on The Apprentice for goodness' sake!
Just go with it!
Trump sat and talked about his religion and his church and then got a standing ovation from what I would guess are a bunch of committed Christians like me. I had zero problem with what he said and neither did anybody else I know. Some people feel more comfortable rambling on and on about their faith in public than others. My mother is an elder in the Presbyterian church and she was fine with it.
Thanks for the link, as I am not sure what to make of a link cited as “7/19/2015 ^ | Todd Beamon “.
Maintaining those feelings were useful because the only guarantee of absolution from them was via a service offered only by the monopoly.
I saw this post on another (linked) thread, about this subject. I found this answer to be quiet humbling, for me, and I agree with it, completely. I couldn’t say it better, so I copied onto this thread. I hope that’s okay, Tucker39...
“I don’t think I’ve ever asked God for forgiveness....(formally).”
1st Corinthians 11:25 & 26 “....do this in remembrance of me. For as often as you eat this bread, and drink this cup you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes back.”
And The Donald said, “Every time I drink the little thing of wine, and eat the little cracker I feel cleansed...”
He could have lied. He could have parsed some BS Clintonesque story. He could have half-truth finnessed it. But he didn’t. He manned up and admitted that he’d never formally asked God for forgiveness....but that he took communion as often as possible, and felt cleansed when he did it.
Yes, there is the subsequent verse regarding partaking of the elements “unworthily”. But the context surely refers to Paul’s scolding the Corinthians for corrupting the communion service into a gluttonous drinking “tie one on” occasion.
Would I prefer that Trump have had an eye popping testimony of getting saved when God personally appeared to him and.....fill in the blanks. But God hasn’t. And Trump opened a window and let us look into his soul. What I saw was a sinner just like me, who is walking the strait and narrow the best he can, ACCORDING TO THE TEACHING HE’S HAD THROUGH LIFE. And God isn’t finished with Trump. In fact, I think God’s actually just getting started with him.
35 posted on 07/19/2015 4:05:57 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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Tax collector and the Pharisee.
We have too many “holier than thou” politicians.
You can criticize this politician because of X reason.
If he says he is then I take him at his word as I would take you at yours. And I don’t know you for shite.
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