And let us also forget the next President:
Yeah.
Professions of faith from candidates are so important...
Posted on 07/20/2015 12:02:47 PM PDT by Kevin C
Donald Trump said Saturday that "I am not sure that I have" ever asked God for forgiveness, telling the 2015 Iowa Family Leadership Summit that "I just go on and try to do a better job from there.
"I don't think so," Trump, who is Presbyterian, said in response to the question from pollster and summit host Frank Luntz. Trump was among 10 Republican presidential candidates at the daylong event in Ames, Iowa.
"If I do something wrong, I think I just try to make it right," Trump said. "I don't bring God into that picture. I don't. "When we go into church — and when I drink my little wine, which is about the only wine I drink, and have my little cracker — I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness. I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed, OK? "But, to me, that is important," Trump said. "In terms of officially, I could tell you absolutely. I don't think in terms of that. I think in terms of, 'Let's go on and let's make it right.'"
When Luntz first asked the question, Trump said that he was Presbyterian and that his pastor was the Rev. Norman Vincent Peale, the author and longtime pastor of Marble Collegiate Church in New York City. He died in 1993 at 95 years old. "That's a tough question," is how Trump began his initial response. "I am a religious person. I'm Protestant. I'm Presbyterian. People are so shocked and they find this out. "I go to church. I love God — and I love my church," he added. "The great Norman Vincent Peale was my pastor. He was so great. He would give a sermon, and you'd never want to leave."
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It is for real and one more reason for me to love the man!!!!
Donald Trump is honest......He could easily have lied to the Evangelical group in Iowa......but he didn’t.
Bill Clinton would have
Jimmy Carter too
George Bush said Jesus was his hero
Enough said
Trump wants to right a lot of America’s wrongs.....and I’m praying God is calling him to do it.
I’m also praying for Trump’s soul........NOTHING is impossible with God.
“I am not sure that I have” ever asked God for forgiveness, telling the 2015 Iowa Family
Leadership Summit that “I just go on and try to do a better job from there.
“I don’t think so,” Trump, who is Presbyterian, said in response to the question
from pollster and summit host Frank Luntz.
“I am not sure that I have” ever asked God for forgiveness, telling the 2015 Iowa
Family Leadership Summit that “I just go on and try to do a better job from there.
“I don’t think so,” Trump, who is Presbyterian, said in response to the question
from pollster and summit host Frank Luntz. Trump was among 10 Republican presidential
candidates at the daylong event in Ames, Iowa.
“If I do something wrong, I think I just try to make it right,” Trump said. “I
don’t bring God into that picture. I don’t.
“When we go into church — and when I drink my little wine, which is about the only
wine I drink, and have my little cracker — I guess that is a form of asking for
forgiveness. I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed, OK?
“But, to me, that is important,” Trump said. “In terms of officially, I could tell
you absolutely. I don’t think in terms of that. I think in terms of, ‘Let’s go on
and let’s make it right.’”
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Trump has some good strong spiritual background.....’Train up a child’....
His mother was Scottish and he attended a Reformed church in New York when he was a kid
I think it could be taken the other way too-
He knows there is a God. And he (Donald) isnt him.
That is a first step that some don’t get past..
And anybody with a nickname like ‘The Donald’ has more to overcome than most.
Donald appears to be all about the here and now and not about ‘His Kingdom’ to come but he isn’t alone.
That means Donald embraces this world for the same reasons many do..
Donald needs different people of faith surrounding him if he wants to see the real Glory and understand how fleeting these 60,70,80 years really are in relation to the everlasting Kingdom..
I would say the same thing to Osteen..
I think this would be a good opportunity to preach about the Kingdom to come to Donald. Not sure he has heard it..
A man with that kind of wealth and fame would be a candidate for the command to ‘sell all you have and give to the poor,and follow me’.
Got it.
And let us also forget the next President:
Yeah.
Professions of faith from candidates are so important...
You’re not going to see a stone in my hand.....
I’m praying hard that God has chosen Trump to lead this nation out of the hideous mess...
...and to also prick Trump’s heart with repentance and genuine redemption
Luke 11:1-4
Kudos!...Well said!
The reference to Peale is real but has symbolic resonance: the Marble Collegiate Church, where he preached for almost 50 years, was originally a firmly Calvinist Dutch Reformed Church.
Peale took it from a 500 person "Sinners in the hands of an angry God" congregation to a 5,000+ crowd "If you can dream it, you can do it!" social phenomenon.
Why was Donald Trump asked about his relationship with God? He answers the question honestly, he said no, he had not asked for forgiveness from God. A good number of people would say they had just to be expedient. I expect that Trump has his spiritual life worked out with God and that what I would think of as asking for forgiveness is different from his approach to the same situation. I accept that Trump is a Christian and loves God and beyond that it is none of my business what arrangement he and God have with his spiritual self.
Insightful analysis, Mr. Engels.
Not rendered the least bit untrue simply because of who might have said it.
Explain that, please.
I actually think his approach is refreshing. At least he understands that he’s accountable - for everything.
You contrast that with folks that understand they are forgiven and act like it by continuing to act like a bull in a china shop, judging others for their imperfections - secure in the knowledge they are saved.
He and God will have some sort of reckoning before long on the issue of asking Him for forgiveness. I don’t think God needs me to help Donald Trump with that.
I’ll take a guy who tries to reckon his own actions and do right by everyone he meets over a Christian who acts like he’s got unlimited mulligans every day - twice on Sunday.
Did the thief on one of the other 2 crosses ask for salvation? Did he walk “the sawdust trail” after being coaxed by all 5 stanzas of JUST AS I AM? Did he shed any tears? From the Bible narrative, obviously not. All he said was, “Lord, remember me...” And yet Christ assured him that on that very day the thief would be with Him in Paradise.
Faith as a grain of mustard seed. The Donald said he prays to God, and he takes Communion “as often as possible.” Apostle Paul in 2nd Corinthians 11 said that “as often as you eat this bread, and drink this cup, you show forth the Lord’s death until he comes back.” Donald has demonstrated a level of faith by doing that.
The most significant thing Trump said about it was conveniently omitted by the Dr. Soundingbrass and Rev. Tinklingcymbal types who have opined here.
He said that after he drinks the little cup of wine, and eats the little cracker, HE FEELS CLEANSED. Only the Holy Spirit can do that. The very words Trump used, are to me, a confession that he realized that he NEEDED cleansing.
Faith as a grain of mustard seed can move a mountain, according to Christ, Himself. I can guarantee you, God is more interested in saving souls than he is in moving mountains, per se. The Donald isn’t as deep, maybe, as some of us might wish. But on the other hand, I don’t think God is nearly finished with His work-in-progress called Donald Trump. In fact, I think He is just getting started with him.
Wonder why they have to ask so often?
“This will not play well in Iowa or the south”
Trump was in Iowa when he said it and got a standing ovation from the Iowa audience when he left the stage.
The sanctimonious people commenting here are forgetting that there are two parts to the requirement: asking for forgiveness, and genuine repentance. If you are asking for forgiveness but don't actually try to stop doing whatever it is you need to be forgiven for, you aren't living up to the contract.
Trump has one half of this right. Too many people posting here also have only one half right, but think they've got it all.
Correct.
It is untrue because it is nonsensical.
Faith is not a mechanical product, and therefore cannot be "maintained" by a mechanism.
This is an unworkable importation of engineering jargon into a topic that does not involve engineering.
Moreover, no organized religion I am aware of "uses" guilt - or more accurately feelings of guilt - as a means of social control.
Anti-religious systems (like the one Mr. Engels advocated) do, however.
And only someone with a truly dulled moral sense would be unaware of how flawed human nature is, how often people fall short of their best ideals, and how useful self-examination is.
But the above oneliner critiquing religion is most often found in the mouths of socialist atheists.
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