Posted on 07/20/2015 12:02:47 PM PDT by Kevin C
Donald Trump said Saturday that "I am not sure that I have" ever asked God for forgiveness, telling the 2015 Iowa Family Leadership Summit that "I just go on and try to do a better job from there.
"I don't think so," Trump, who is Presbyterian, said in response to the question from pollster and summit host Frank Luntz. Trump was among 10 Republican presidential candidates at the daylong event in Ames, Iowa.
"If I do something wrong, I think I just try to make it right," Trump said. "I don't bring God into that picture. I don't. "When we go into church and when I drink my little wine, which is about the only wine I drink, and have my little cracker I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness. I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed, OK? "But, to me, that is important," Trump said. "In terms of officially, I could tell you absolutely. I don't think in terms of that. I think in terms of, 'Let's go on and let's make it right.'"
When Luntz first asked the question, Trump said that he was Presbyterian and that his pastor was the Rev. Norman Vincent Peale, the author and longtime pastor of Marble Collegiate Church in New York City. He died in 1993 at 95 years old. "That's a tough question," is how Trump began his initial response. "I am a religious person. I'm Protestant. I'm Presbyterian. People are so shocked and they find this out. "I go to church. I love God and I love my church," he added. "The great Norman Vincent Peale was my pastor. He was so great. He would give a sermon, and you'd never want to leave."
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Trump: I Don’t Think I’ve Ever Asked God for Forgiveness
No, he's hitting himself in the head with it.
I’m surprised he’s not an atheist. But really, I don’t give a $hit.
I don’t either. But I change my ways and don’t do it again.
IMHO, Peale was amazing!
Trump babbled on. He tried to be honest but ... oh well.
I’m a Christian and I have never asked God for forgivness because I’ve never done anything that I consider to have been a significant sin, which is to say I’m a pretty boring person.
He is, at least, refreshingly honest. Obama tried to pass himself off as a Christian when he clearly wasn’t. Obama lied about a lot of things. Honesty is refreshing.
I’m waiting for all the holier than thou good Christians who start throwing stones...
Has Obama asked God for Forgiveness? And why was this question not asked of Obama in 2007/2008?
LMAO They will be along shortly.
The "Power of Positive Thinking" fad was very profitable while it lasted.
He was Joel Osteen before there was Joel Osteen.
Only people who should be looking for forgiveness are making something of this.
If it were not for the outrageous guilt organized religion uses as a faith maintenance mechanism, this statement would be one of humility and a healthy relationship with his maker. Trump acknowledges God knows he has done, what is in his heart, and that he promises to do better with what is in his power.
After reading the article I’m left with the impression that this is an old-school man who isn’t trying to thumb his nose at God but taking ownership of his failures. Inherent in the words is the idea that he’s not trying to cheat anyone or be deceitful. And he does go on to say that he loves God, loves his church and other things. I loved Reagan and had to hold my nose about things he professed... his wife in particular. The jury is out on Trump for me - but I love his fire.
If I were ever inclined to vote for him, he just made up my mind for me. Never asked God for forgiveness, just do it better next time? How positively Luciferian...
By the way, the Christian conception should not be that far from the Jewish idea of sin. Jesus never said that what he was teaching was outside the tradition of his people: he clarified and strengthened some points.
Atonement is a pretty good idea for Christians, as well as Jews. For one thing, it acts out that one really is sorry, and has the practical effect of possibly undoing (at least in part) a harm. If you don’t at least do that, how can you ask forgiveness from God?
Interesting point of view. Do you take communion in a church service?
I like it. Well said.
Insightful analysis, Mr. Engels.
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