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Trump’s Dismissal of McCain’s Heroism Shows Lack of Judgment and Decency, And Is Also Dead Wrong
REASON ^ | 07/19/2015 | Matt Welch

Posted on 07/19/2015 4:17:39 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: ckilmer; SeekAndFind
I’ve always thought of McCain as dumb as a bag of rocks and a human wrecking ball of the republican party.

Exactly. He can be counted on to turn on you when you most need him. That has been his modus operandi for as long as I can remember, and I have been watching him a long time.

101 posted on 07/19/2015 11:25:43 PM PDT by marron
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m not crazy about Trump, but all he’s doing is matching McCain’s energy of hate and disrespect towards anyone who disagrees with him.

Remember, we are all “wacobirds” for being against amnesty and over spending in DC. He’s been super insulting to Ted Cruz.

So, insult McCain away. He should be disgraced, sidelined and be seen as the small minded, mean old man he is. He’s killing the GOP.


102 posted on 07/20/2015 7:15:41 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Gunslingr3

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3314153/posts

From Admiral Stockdale’s book p.254:

There was little concern in any American’s mind about the possibility of the Vietnamese throwing anybody out to defame him; we now knew the Vietnamese well enough to be sure that any early releasee would have to buy his way out by groveling on his knees before the Communists, bad-mouthing America. I gave their new release program a name: FRP — the “Fink Release Program,” and that was the way it was to be known. I also issued an order that started on its way to the other cell blocks of Las Vegas and with subsequent movers to the camps elsewhere in the city and outside it: “No early release; we all go home together”.

I can only assume that, based on Stockdale’s statement, that IF McCain was offered an early release it was because McCain was guilty of trying to “...buy his way out by groveling on his knees before the Communists, bad-mouthing America.”


103 posted on 07/20/2015 9:37:11 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'll never vote for another rino and it sickens me that I voted for McCain.)
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I can only assume that, based on Stockdale’s statement, that IF McCain was offered an early release it was because McCain was guilty of trying to “...buy his way out by groveling on his knees before the Communists, bad-mouthing America.”

Your reading comprehension is terrible.

Reread Stockdale's statment:

"He was eventually taken to the same rat-infested hospital room I had occupied two years earlier, and, like me, he had surgery on his leg. By then the Vietnamese had discovered that his father was the ranking admiral in the Pacific Fleet, and he received an offer that, as far as I know, was made to no other American prisoner: immediate release, no strings attached. He refused, thereby sentencing himself to four more years in a cell.

Do you understand what 'no strings attached' means? We're left with two choices: You'd sink in a sea of lead, or Admiral Stockdale is a liar.

104 posted on 07/20/2015 11:39:03 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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What I’m saying is Admiral Stockdale contradicts himself. He said McCain, AS FAR AS I KNOW, was offered early release. Then he says they all knew that to get offered an early release you had to grovel. That means others WERE offered early release.

Or is he saying McCain’s offer, with no strings attached, was an offer no one else received? But the four key words to me are “as far as I know”.

McCain has never, AS FAR AS I KNOW, said “I turned down an early release because Stockdale ordered we all turn down early release offers”. He has allowed others to make him out the hero that he wasn’t.

Frankly, I’m more pissed at those than I am at anyone. Say one thing bad about McCain and you always get “But McCain is a war hero.” I know of another war hero who shot down 5 MIGs. He’s now in a prison for taking bribes. To me, he gave up his hero status. McCain gave up his, assuming he deserved it, when he threw the families of MIA under the bus and supported Kerry over the Swift Boat veterans and slandered Cruz and every voter who disagrees with him.

Finally, do a search and you’ll find many of his fellow prisoners who hate him and say he’s a fraud.


105 posted on 07/20/2015 1:42:09 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'll never vote for another rino and it sickens me that I voted for McCain.)
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Finally, do a search and you’ll find many of his fellow prisoners who hate him and say he’s a fraud.

Do you actually have evidence of POWs that were held with McCain who call him a fraud? If not that actually makes you a fraud. I looked and found Admiral Stockdale extolling him instead.

106 posted on 07/20/2015 6:15:51 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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There have been links posted all day long on here. Click on a few of them. You might look up Col. Earl Hopper and see what he said about McCain.


107 posted on 07/20/2015 8:47:39 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'll never vote for another rino and it sickens me that I voted for McCain.)
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To: Gunslingr3

You can take this anyway you want it. Believe Hopper or don’t. But you can’t deny he’s telling the truth about the way McCain treated MIA families.

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/earlhopperinterview08feb08.shtml


108 posted on 07/20/2015 8:55:28 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'll never vote for another rino and it sickens me that I voted for McCain.)
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To: Gunslingr3

By the way, I know Hopper wasn’t with McCain in Hanoi. I’m just posting what he believes and he has talked to those who were with McCain.

McCain himself said he was cooperating within a few days of capture. And it’s a fact that his injuries weren’t from torture. They were from the ejection. That’s why he wanted to go to the hospital.

I’m not a fraud. I haven’t made bogus claims to get ahead. And I didn’t have an admiral father helping me become a pilot who otherwise would have washed out.


109 posted on 07/20/2015 9:00:23 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'll never vote for another rino and it sickens me that I voted for McCain.)
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