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Trump Fans, It’s Time for An Intervention
National Review ^ | July 11, 2015 | Jonah Goldberg's Weekly News Letter

Posted on 07/11/2015 1:59:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: CitizenUSA
Can we like what Trump is saying on immigration without planning to vote for him? I think so. Is it possible to appreciate the way he’s exposed the Democrats and many Republicans as treacherous amnesty shills? He seems to be doing an excellent job of that.

The GOPe is laid bare. They are no better than the Democrats on immigration. For whatever reasons, both parties want open borders at the expense of Americans. Many of us are sick of it!

2 thumbs up!

81 posted on 07/11/2015 3:33:30 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Jonah Goldberg is a senior editor of National Review, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute


Jonah's mom must be so proud of him,

working for two employers that have to ask for donations

to keep the doors open and the lights on.

 https://www.nationalreview.com/donate

 https://www.aei.org/donate/


But he still has every right to criticize and ridicule a man who

gets up every morning and goes to work in the real world.

82 posted on 07/11/2015 3:37:38 AM PDT by greedo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They all need thier a##es handed to them bring them all to the shed


83 posted on 07/11/2015 3:37:44 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Gaffer

The Democrats don’t have anything...

Nobody plays dirty politics like a woman scorned either. Hillary was played quite well by Limbaugh in 2008. Lots of conservatives switched parties in the primaries to vote for her at the urging of Rush.

Enter Trump stage left with a vitriolic conservative sounding message. The goal is to split the Republican base and it is frightening that so many just don’t see it.

Trump is going to pull away votes, conservatives will be disappointed...AGAIN. How many will stay home and not vote this time because of this game from Trump?

Hillary wins.


84 posted on 07/11/2015 3:44:31 AM PDT by EBH (There's a sucker born every minute)
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To: Ray76

I woke up a long time ago. I have no illusions about the The Stupid Party. Trump has started something the The Gutless Party won’t be able to contain. I love seeing them squirm, and the longer Trump is around the more they will have to address how they have failed to articulate any goals as a supposed opposition to Democrats.


85 posted on 07/11/2015 3:50:44 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: dennisw

So you think Trump can ride this thing to the White House as a Republican?


86 posted on 07/11/2015 3:52:26 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: EBH

I’m not going to buy the spoiler routine again. The ‘base’ is already split - very distinctly, irreparably IMO.

To the extent that it forces the large slate of candidates to jump off this fake “immigration reform” fence and call the illegal alien spade a spade is a good thing, IMO.

He isn’t fooling me as a conservative, nor as a serious candidate. Pull votes away? From who? Bush in Iowa or NH or SC? Walker? Cruz? He’s not changed my mind about Cruz a single bit. Regardless of Trump, the RINO GOPe poweratti are committed to make Bush the candidate and HE is the enemy here.


87 posted on 07/11/2015 3:52:57 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: spodefly

Trump is mowing down all the tall grass the GOPe likes to hide in.


88 posted on 07/11/2015 3:54:25 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Exactly why I want him in the news cycle 24/7 for the next 15 months.


89 posted on 07/11/2015 3:57:46 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Gaffer

Exactly. Jeb must be stopped at all costs.


90 posted on 07/11/2015 4:02:32 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Cowboy Bob

“I won’t vote for Trump for President, but I love how he’s beating the establishment senseless.”........

At this time, I too would not vote for Trump. Then again, what to do when it becomes Hitlary or Trump? Decisions, decisions. Would you rather have a confirmed liar or someone who isn’t afraid to tell it like it is? Guess I’d have to go for Trump then, we’ve had enough of the demodummies and certainly enough of Hitlary.

What really worries me if it becomes Bush or Hitlary, if that happens the voters have a REALLY BIG PROBLEM.


91 posted on 07/11/2015 4:04:19 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Ray76
The Republican Party is a vessel, a tool for achieving conservative ends.

Do you really disagree with that statement? Seems self-evident to me.

92 posted on 07/11/2015 4:04:54 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: spodefly

Sure Trump can win the Presidency unless he gets disgusted and drops out.

You better believe Tokyo Rove and his RINOs are looking high and low for dirt and mud to fling. Dittos for Hill and Bill.


93 posted on 07/11/2015 4:09:50 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dragnet2

I don’t object to Trump’s speaking the truth, which he recently (sorta) has.

I do, however, object to pretty much everything else about the man, as Jonah lays out so clearly.

The Devil can quote Scripture, and a blind squirrel finds a nut every so often. That doesn’t mean we should elect the Devil or the squirrel President.

Especially when there is pretty much zero evidence that Trump really believes what he is now saying, or indeed that he really believes anything except that Trump is wonderful.


94 posted on 07/11/2015 4:10:10 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: dennisw

>>>So Jonah Goldberg comes up with this jive. Pathetic!

His career was built and is sustained by him being a “likeable” conservative. Not being able to buy a pair of pants is in fact something that would further endear Goldberg to his liberal friends.


95 posted on 07/11/2015 4:11:46 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: dennisw

I would like to think you are right that he can win as a Republican, but my fear is that his ego, and the highly-skilled ability of the Republicans to self-immolate might push Trump to go 3rd Party, at which point we can all start practicing saying, “Madame President” ...


96 posted on 07/11/2015 4:12:57 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Especially when there is pretty much zero evidence that any politician really believes what he is now saying....

Yes every one of them.


97 posted on 07/11/2015 4:14:27 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: livius
He’s this year’s populist clown candidate, full of bluster but absolutely empty of plans. If he was serious about politics and making a change, he should have run for mayor of New York - he started to, in fact, but washed out early on.

And he has the $$$ to launch a 3rd Party campaign - he's already flirted with the Reform Party.

".....The Reform Party's presidential candidate for the 2000 election was due federal matching funds of $12.5 million, based on Perot's 8% showing in 1996. Early on, there was a failed effort to draft Ron Paul.

Donald Trump entered the race briefly, giving television interviews outlining his platform. Trump was progressive on social issues, and supported allowing openly gay soldiers in the military, saying: "it would not disturb me." Trump considered himself a conservative, but criticized Pat Buchanan, saying: "I'm on the conservative side, but Buchanan is Attila the Hun." He withdrew from the race citing the party's infighting, as did Jesse Ventura and the Minnesota Reform Party.".....

98 posted on 07/11/2015 4:15:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: spodefly
It's all about:


99 posted on 07/11/2015 4:17:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: central_va

You think Trump cares about you?

Would you go over the ridge with this guy?


100 posted on 07/11/2015 4:19:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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