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F-35 beaten in a dogfight by F-16
Daily Mail ^
| 6/30/15
| Imogen Calderwood
Posted on 06/30/2015 11:52:34 AM PDT by Teflonic
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Treason!
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posted on
06/30/2015 11:52:34 AM PDT
by
Teflonic
To: Teflonic
It wasn’t beaten by an F16.
It was beaten by a pilot who was better that day.
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posted on
06/30/2015 11:55:05 AM PDT
by
Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
To: Vendome
just swap pilots and try again.
To: Vendome
It was beaten by a pilot who was better that day. Would be interesting to switch pilots and see if the results are the same.
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posted on
06/30/2015 11:56:24 AM PDT
by
ealgeone
To: Teflonic
The F-35 is the world’s 1st aircraft to use $100 bills as chaff.
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posted on
06/30/2015 11:56:32 AM PDT
by
Flick Lives
(“One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast.” -- Heinlein "Friday")
To: Teflonic
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posted on
06/30/2015 11:56:37 AM PDT
by
Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
To: Teflonic; Jewbacca
They’ve been banking, no pun intended, on BVR for a long, long time now.
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posted on
06/30/2015 11:58:46 AM PDT
by
SaveFerris
(Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
To: Teflonic
Enough irrelevance!
Was either pilot transgender or gay?
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posted on
06/30/2015 12:00:43 PM PDT
by
PROCON
(CRUZing into 2016 with Ted.)
Comment #9 Removed by Moderator
To: Teflonic
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posted on
06/30/2015 12:03:11 PM PDT
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: Vendome
Didn’t he fly an F-14 Tomcat?
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posted on
06/30/2015 12:03:37 PM PDT
by
CommerceComet
(Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
To: Teflonic
AND the F-22 routinely smoked multiple F-15’s in the same type simulation.
What is going on?
What happened to F-22?
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posted on
06/30/2015 12:04:04 PM PDT
by
LeonardFMason
(LanceyHoward would AGREE)
To: Teflonic
Uh, were the planes flying by themselves without pilots?
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posted on
06/30/2015 12:05:45 PM PDT
by
I want the USA back
(Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
To: LeonardFMason
The F-22 has thrust vectoring, the F-35 does not.
Truthfully the F-35 isn’t meant to be a dogfighter, and truth be told if you end up in a dogfight in current air to air fights, you’ve messed up.
The F-16 was always known to be extremely maneuverable.
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posted on
06/30/2015 12:09:53 PM PDT
by
drbuzzard
(All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
To: Vendome
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posted on
06/30/2015 12:11:45 PM PDT
by
navyguy
(The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
To: CommerceComet
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posted on
06/30/2015 12:14:05 PM PDT
by
Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
To: Vendome
But according to the other thread, the F-35 was unladen while the F-16 was burdened with two external fuel tanks. So it's not just the pilots; the F-16 was heavily disadvantaged in the test and still won. Can you put all of THAT on the F-35 pilot? Was he really that bad of a pilot that he was beaten by a weighed down F-16? If so, why was he selected for the test in the first place? Wouldn't we put our best on a test of a trillion-dollar plane?
What would it have been like if the F-35 were also burdened with the extra weight of armament?
-PJ
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posted on
06/30/2015 12:14:13 PM PDT
by
Political Junkie Too
(If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
To: spokeshave
I’ve known about this for a bit. In fact since it happened. I’ll give you one guess as to the nationality of the pilot in the F-16. ;-)
And, in fairness, and I say this as a man who has flown F-16s his entire adult life, this is not that “real world” of a test. The F-35 would have shot down the F-16 long before they engaged in an actual dogfight.
It’s like saying “oh no, a guy with a sword and armor can kill my archer in hand-to-hand combat!” Well duh, different roles.
I do think the F-35 is a bit of a camel — that is, a horse made by committee. It tries to do too much. They should have made related, but specialized, planes.
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posted on
06/30/2015 12:14:16 PM PDT
by
TheThirdRuffian
(RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
To: drewh
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posted on
06/30/2015 12:14:24 PM PDT
by
Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
To: LeonardFMason
“What happened to F-22?”
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
That, and drones are going to take over.
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posted on
06/30/2015 12:15:30 PM PDT
by
TheThirdRuffian
(RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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