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1 posted on 06/30/2015 10:40:19 AM PDT by raptor22
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2 posted on 06/30/2015 10:41:13 AM PDT by raptor22 (Follow me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken or facebook.com/danielsobieski)
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Churches Could Lose Tax Exemption Over Gay Marriage

And then pray tell, what will you threaten them with to force obedience to your morality?

3 posted on 06/30/2015 10:41:47 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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If the church loses its tax exemption then the pastor will be free to speak on political issues.

It’s worth it.


4 posted on 06/30/2015 10:42:38 AM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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Make your tithe a gift. You can gift the church $28,000 per year.

It's not tax-deductible, but it's a way around the gay supremacists.

5 posted on 06/30/2015 10:43:15 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("One man with a gun can control a hundred without one." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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6 posted on 06/30/2015 10:44:22 AM PDT by raptor22 (Follow me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken or facebook.com/danielsobieski)
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I've long questioned the spirituality of tax exemption for religious organizations. Worldwide Church of Satan. Islam. Church of the Spaghetti Monster.

Seems to me a "church" should just stand by its fidelity to truth. It's gotten too corporate. Too big business. Charlatans like Joel Olsteen have become multimillionaires off of sham religion and have consequently become influential in politics.

"In the temple, and at home, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus as the Christ." Acts 5:42

Let's get away from the entertainment oriented Sesame Street presentation of a feel good message and become what God demands. We don't need tax exemptions, income producing property, etc, to do that.

8 posted on 06/30/2015 10:50:55 AM PDT by LouAvul (Liberalism: much more than just a mental illness)
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Except for most congregations of the United Church of Christ, the Presbyterian Church in the U.S.A., the Evangelical Lutheran Church, the Unitarian Universalist Association, the Society of Friends, the Episcopal Church, the Conservative Jewish Movement, and the Reform Jewish Movement. Plus others that will eventually jump on the bandwagon. These will constitute the “established religion” of the United States.


10 posted on 06/30/2015 10:55:29 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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Pastor post a sign: I do not preform marriages in this Church/building.......

But he can find a pastor of another Church to preform the ceremony......Reciprocate among the Churches, and shut your mouth..

The key word in this is "I".

13 posted on 06/30/2015 10:59:39 AM PDT by annieokie
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I am not sure that the ruling elite would be happy having churches participating in elections directly. So probably they won’t lose their tax status.

Boy, they don’t want to go there. Seriously.


15 posted on 06/30/2015 11:06:26 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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Mosques too?


18 posted on 06/30/2015 11:27:31 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz - to defeat HilLIARy/Warren)
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Churches could avoid this by requiring all who seek the blessing of holy matrimony to first get a civil license. Then the churches will be able to confir their blessings on those who meet the church’s requirements for the blessing.


19 posted on 06/30/2015 11:30:48 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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Of course they could go after tax exemptions. The question is what to do about it, if anything. Churches sure do trade a lot of free speech for a tax deduction that most people can’t use anyway.

Our emphasis is wrong. We get wrapped up,in how to fight political outrages rather than figuring out ways to go around them and render them as irrelevant as we can.


21 posted on 06/30/2015 12:25:05 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat ( The ballot is a suggestion box for slaves and fools.)
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They have already, but the ostriches have to lift their head up to really see the truth of it.

All these churches that clamored to get that little piece of paper, the 503c certificate, have become part and parcel of governmental operations. I remember when a new ‘satellite’ church of a megachurch on Long Island, NY, 50 miles to the east, received their 503c. They threw a party!! I tried to explain to this ‘Christ for the nations’ school graduate, that he just became another government entity.

In the quest for that paper, ya’s did it to yo’selfs!


22 posted on 06/30/2015 12:26:13 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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24 posted on 06/30/2015 12:49:52 PM PDT by raptor22 (Follow me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken or facebook.com/danielsobieski)
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And so it begins.......


26 posted on 06/30/2015 1:53:13 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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The thing many churches have in their favor it that many of them will not perform weddings for people who are not members or regular attenders.

In almost every church I’ve attended, there have been people who don’t go to church, don’t have any affiliation, are living together, who for some reason or other want a church wedding. The churches would not perform weddings for someone who walks in off the street looking for one.

Precedent has already been set.


27 posted on 06/30/2015 2:11:09 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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