Posted on 06/30/2015 10:24:23 AM PDT by Ravnagora
A monument to Gavrilo Princip was unveiled on Sunday in Belgrade in the presence of Serbian and RS [Republika Srpska in Bosnia] presidents Tomislav Nikolic and Milorad Dodik.
Princip was a member of the Young Bosnia (Mlada Bosna) movement in the early 20th century, who on Vidovdan (St. Vitus Day, June 28) 1914 in Sarajevo assassinated Austrian Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
“Gavrilo Princip was a hero, a symbol of the idea of freedom, the assassin of tyrants and the carrier of the European idea of liberation from slavery,” Nikolic said at the ceremony.
As far as Germany and Austria-Hungary were concerned, World War I was imminent even without the assassination, he said, and added that "then, as well as now, as always, Serbia opposed the war. We deserved and received the halo of the righteous victors during and immediately after both world wars."
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Austria-Hungary didn’t have to go to war, but there were those in Vienna who wanted it, so there you are.
I’ve read that other statues of him haven’t lasted very long. While the cauldron was bubbling for something to happen, I don’t think precipitating a world war merits “hero”.
What a bunch of dumbasses. Of course the assassination started the war. Austria was chomping at the bit to go to war with Serbia. Princip did the Austrians a favor by providing the Reichstag Fire event to allow Austria to declare war. Seeing a monument to Princip is like seeing the monument the Russians erected to honor the kid who informed the NKVD on his own parents.
Sounds like a decent solution for the current Mid-East.
The Serbs gave into virtually all of their demands, but Austria-Hungary wanted to teach them all a lesson even though this was a small group of independent assassins.
But I don’t fault him for what he did for Serbia even though it was reckless and selfish.
This murder was a conspiracy! There was 20 or so of them waiting for their chance at Franz and Franz was pretty much on Princip’s side.
Princip was waiting for his turn on the route, but the grenade had been triggered already, and everything was in chaos, so Princip probably was pretty dejected.
They had failed. He went and grabbed something to eat across town, came out and there was Franz & company (with one additional bodyguard) in a stalled car and Princip shot husband and wife.
Wonderful guy.
Think if that happened with JFK...
There’s a book that was recently reviewed in the Wall Street Journal, that depicts the small group of Austrian diplomats who wanted and got the war in that summer of 1914.
“Think if that happened with JFK...”
I was thinking about Lincoln. Are there any statues in honor of John Wilkes Booth?
“Franz Ferdinand was no tyrant.”
He was a monarch. Monarchs deserve no respect. Even worse, he was a foreign monarch.
The only reform I would respect is that he relinquish any claim to rule people who did not choose him.
WWI was primed and ready. In truth blaming him for WWI is about like blaming the starter pistol for an Olympic race.
The poor guy did not want to go, but Franz Joseph the Emperor made him. You are right that had he lived, he might well have stabilized Austria Hungary and prevented its participation in WW1
“He was a monarch. Monarchs deserve no respect.”
So Jesus - King of Kings - deserves no respect?
I agree, it was definitely not worth it.
The Austrian empire made another big mistake, in 1784 when the emperor Joseph II changed the empire’s administrative language from Latin to German.
That favored one ethnic group over the others, in a polyglot empire, and led to more disunity.
But no matter what he was or wasn’t. The murder was foul, and Princip isn’t someone id want my kid to grow up like.
Europe was simply a cesspool then, with very few real “good guys”. Most were caught up in their personal situation and had very little ability to step out of their set in concrete role.
Ferdinand couldn’t walk away from being a royal. I really can’t imagine how he or any euro monarch could have disbanded an empire without his own aristocrats murdering him or deposing him.
And Princip had an equally bad choice. Live under an Austrian monarch, or fight violently. You couldn’t vote the monarch out, and they did not have freedom to advocate regime change, excepting to grovel and beg for the monarchs mercy. So I see his choices as submit, or fight.
Both were people with no really good choices left. This crap is precisely why America was the beacon to the world then.
A solid argument can be made that Americas purity was lost measure by measure as we closely interacted with Europe. The people are wonderful, but their government and social structures are pure trash.
He did start the three-named assassin trend.
Bullcrap. Its downright blasphemous to equate Jesus with some European Monarch.
The phrase king of kings expresses his absolute sovereignty over everything, it in no way justifies obedience to every fat, farting, inbred Euro potentate.
Please get serious. Yes, temporal Monarchs deserve no respect whatsoever. If they claim a right to rule over an individual, they should not be surprised if that individual shoots at them or throws rocks at them.
If Jesus ever sits in power as a temporal ruler, I think we can agree that this is a unique exception. And I doubt he will send a swarm of armed jackasses to harass us.
Ping!
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