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To: bert

“The clerk is the person that must declare and then enforce Christian scruples”

Um, no. Not a good idea. The clerk has administrative duties as an officer of the government. He or she must follow the law as it exists, not as they want it to exist. In private life, clerks are free to do whatever their scruples say but should not overlay their religious opinions in picking and choosing what laws to obey. If they have a problem with their duties, there are other ways to challenge it, legally, or they may resign if they find their duties repugnant to their personal moral codes.

Otherwise imagine what might happen in similar situations. Should a Muslim government official be permitted to refuse to issue liquor licenses? Perhaps a fervent environmentalist might refuse to issue driver licenses. A pacifist official refuse to allow gun ownership. We are a nation of laws or we are chaos. What we do in our private lives is our business. What we do as government representatives is another matter entirely.


16 posted on 06/28/2015 5:30:15 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: caseinpoint

I won’t disagree but Senator Cruz made the statement and he was correct. The Clerk is where queers and Christians engage


17 posted on 06/28/2015 5:32:13 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: caseinpoint

“...or they may resign if they find their duties repugnant to their personal moral codes.”

Yep, then they can find someone who will get the job done. Likely a homosexual would be ecstatic to hand out marriage licences in right-wing Texas.


22 posted on 06/28/2015 6:13:15 AM PDT by Leep (10)
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To: caseinpoint

“We are a nation of laws or we are chaos.”

I think that is the whole plot and plan of the ruling elites. Create the chaos, and the masses come running to them for the solution... usually giving them even more power.


24 posted on 06/28/2015 7:04:39 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: caseinpoint

The POTUS is supposed to follow the law as it exists too; same with the SCOTUS and COTUS. So what happened there?


27 posted on 06/28/2015 9:49:41 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: caseinpoint

Yes, I agree, this presents an untenable can of worms—though I don’t actually know whether it’s already been opened or not.


45 posted on 06/29/2015 3:30:11 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: caseinpoint
Otherwise imagine what might happen in similar situations. Should a Muslim government official be permitted to refuse to issue liquor licenses? Perhaps a fervent environmentalist might refuse to issue driver licenses. A pacifist official refuse to allow gun ownership. We are a nation of laws or we are chaos. What we do in our private lives is our business. What we do as government representatives is another matter entirely.

You miss the absolute disaster that the SCOTUS two most recent decisions are. We are in waters we have not sailed since the early 19th century.

And nullification is on the table once again, whether you like it or not.

50 posted on 06/29/2015 5:00:17 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: caseinpoint
We are a nation of laws or we are chaos.

Chaos has been imposed from on high; the the Congress, the Supreme Court, and the President all regularly, routinely, casually flout the law. I'm not sure exactly when we ceased to be a nation of law, and became a nation of anarchic tyranny ... but the Supreme Court declared us such on January 22, 1973. The recent '0bamacare' and sodomite decisions are simply further evidence that the law is simply a tool for oppression in this country.

54 posted on 06/29/2015 5:32:44 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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