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John Roberts: I … can’t help but think this decision opens the door to legal polygamy
Hot Air ^ | June 26, 2015 | Allahpundit

Posted on 06/26/2015 9:51:32 AM PDT by C19fan

What would have ever given Roberts that idea?

That’s a lot of gauzy schmaltz for a High Court decision, even by the more relaxed standards of the summing-up paragraphs in a majority opinion. The striking thing about Kennedy’s ruling isn’t that he came down the way he did, which was a mortal lock, but that he didn’t concern himself with trying to narrow the reasoning to meet the core objection of SSM opponents, that there’s no way to get traction on this slippery slope. “That would have been beyond the scope of the decision,” Kennedy fans will say; polygamy wasn’t at issue here so he had no business addressing it. True — he had no business addressing it explicitly. But he could have added language that he knew would be pointed back to later when polygamy inevitably lands before the Court. “Unlike some forms of marital relationships, a marriage of two members of the same sex is a partnership of equals” — something like that, or rhetoric about how other forms of marriage might be exploitative by their very nature. Anything to signal to polygamists that if they try to make their play at the Court anytime soon, they may not like which way Kennedy goes on that.

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To: central_va
What are the chances of all 4 wives all having a headache at the same time?

If you all live under the same roof, the chances of them all having their period at the same time becomes a dead-cinch certainty... THAT would be a fun week every month!

81 posted on 06/26/2015 3:06:52 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: odawg
I was being sarcastic.

So was I.

You would think from all the squealing, crying, and histrionics put out by these brave Rainbow Warriors they were actually being persecuted.

I guess when you're so weak and undisciplined you can't resist giving in to your own erection (or someone else's) anything seems like torture.

82 posted on 06/26/2015 3:19:14 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: C19fan

Yep. If Loving is valid precedent for same-sex marriage, why wouldn’t Loving and Obergefell be valid precedents for polygamy (or for that matter consanguinous marriages)? The simple answer is that they will be, whether Roberts said anything about it or not. In law as in...the other thing...it’s never, ever just the tip.


83 posted on 06/26/2015 3:19:35 PM PDT by RichInOC (...somebody was going to say it. Why not me?)
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To: Ghost of SVR4
Polygamy in all 50 states is a done deal.

Oh Lord, I can only imagine what the congress-critters are going to do to the tax code to support those exemptions.

Here in Utah the polygamists only file a joint return with the first wife, and she has no income so as not to raise hubby's tax bracket. The others file as single moms or head of household to get the lower rates (if they file returns at all). The single mom ploy also gets them more welfare benefits.

What a country!

84 posted on 06/26/2015 3:25:45 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Auntie Dem

Fairly blunt and caught me by surprise, but funny.


85 posted on 06/26/2015 3:28:33 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Ghost of SVR4
I can't figure it out anymore.

I hear ya.

What made me question his remark was that he was claiming men and women are not equals. This is in contradiction to the 'opinions' of the S.C., the liberals, the media, the President and his wife, a movie star, the professor and Mary Ann.

86 posted on 06/26/2015 5:24:10 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Know et al

It sets the stage...


87 posted on 06/26/2015 8:03:23 PM PDT by GOPJ (Dems are going to build THE FENCE FINALLY. And they'll shoot us if we try to leave...)
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To: C19fan
Liberals will never support polygamy for one simple reason: It could eliminate the death tax. A wealthy married couple could simply marry their children. (What! That's incest. Well, incest and pedophile behavior is already under attack to be permitted.)

Then - voila. No death taxes when the couple dies.

88 posted on 06/27/2015 4:51:39 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: C19fan

I’ve missed the Rapture: Apocalypse has started...


89 posted on 06/27/2015 5:00:24 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: C19fan

There was a total lack of limiting principle.


 

Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Doonesbury Cartoon for Feb/08/2013

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.



2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
 

 
 
 
 
 
 


The Health Risks of gay sex.


90 posted on 06/27/2015 5:01:36 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: isthisnickcool
They will be called Caitlyn Jenner's Slippery Stuff.

We know that she/he/it sure don't produce it naturally!

91 posted on 06/27/2015 5:02:38 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: C19fan; teppe; WilliamRobert; StormPrepper; Normandy

The same exact logic is applicable to polygamy.



The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.
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58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.


 

58 Now, as touching the law of the apriesthood, there are many things pertaining thereunto.

59 Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was aAaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that bsent me, and I have endowed him with the ckeys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit dsin, and I will justify him.

60 Let no one, therefore, set on my servant Joseph; for I will justify him; for he shall do the sacrifice which I require at his hands for his transgressions, saith the Lord your God.

61 And again, as pertaining to the law of the priesthood—if any man espouse a virgin, and desire to espouse aanother, and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified; he cannot commit adultery for they are given unto him; for he cannot commit adultery with that that belongeth unto him and to no one else.

62 And if he have aten virgins given unto him by this law, he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and they are given unto him; therefore is he justified.

63 But if one or either of the ten virgins, after she is espoused, shall be with another man, she has committed adultery, and shall be destroyed; for they are given unto him to amultiply and replenish the earth, according to my commandment, and to fulfil the promise which was given by my Father before the foundation of the world, and for their exaltation in the eternal worlds, that they may bear the souls of men; for herein is the work of my Father continued, that he may be bglorified.

64 And again, verily, verily, I say unto you, if any man have a wife, who holds the keys of this power, and he teaches unto her the law of my priesthood, as pertaining to these things, then shall she believe and administer unto him, or she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord your God; for I will destroy her; for I will magnify my name upon all those who receive and abide in my law.

65 Therefore, it shall be lawful in me, if she receive not this law, for him to receive all things whatsoever I, the Lord his God, will give unto him, because she did not believe and administer unto him according to my word; and she then becomes the transgressor; and he is exempt from the law of Sarah, who administered unto Abraham according to the law when I commanded Abraham to take aHagar to wife.

66 And now, as pertaining to this law, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will reveal more unto you, hereafter; therefore, let this suffice for the present. Behold, I am Alpha and Omega. Amen.


92 posted on 06/27/2015 5:04:15 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: pepsionice
I just don’t see how you can’t allow me to have four wives. To make me happy [...] If I wanted to marry a 12-year gal ...

All that needs to happen is for a Muslim, whose marriage to two women was performed in a Muslim country and legally recognized there, to file suit claiming "religious discrimination".

On what basis can the Supreme Court, now, deny his claim?

93 posted on 06/27/2015 5:04:33 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come fokquote>r you.)
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To: central_va

Ok, we seldom agree, but consider this........

A bull dyke can marry four wives. I can’t begin to fathom the comedic turmoil in that household

Just the thought is painfull


94 posted on 06/27/2015 5:05:59 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: bert
A bull dyke can marry four wives. I can’t begin to fathom the comedic turmoil in that household

"Hey, that's MY flannel shirt! " "No, it's MINE! " "No way, Butch, it's MINE!"

95 posted on 06/27/2015 5:12:40 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: C19fan
Well, progressives across the country are looking to lower the age of consent all the way down to 12 years old, and some want it even lower.

This country is on the fast track to hell.

96 posted on 06/27/2015 5:13:27 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: central_va
What are the chances of all 4 wives all having a headache at the same time?

Depends on the social environment. Under Islam, a wife can have a headache all she wants. But will she deny sex, if the husband can respond by divorcing her and tossing her out with the clothes on her back?

97 posted on 06/27/2015 5:19:19 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come fokquote>r you.)
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To: Elsie
http://www.mentalhealth.gov/get-help/

http://www.helpguide.org/articles/anxiety/obssessive-compulsive-disorder-ocd.htm
98 posted on 06/27/2015 8:28:34 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: C19fan

I doubt if we’ll see polygamy legalized. But I can’t say it won’t happen.

The world is moving in the direction of Sodom. That’s the ultimate goal of Satan and those who unwittingly follow him.

Empathy for man woman relationships is not in the cards.

All I know is that prophecy is being fulfilled in front of our eyes in regards to the last days.


99 posted on 06/27/2015 8:46:29 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: thorvaldr

Since mornism has embarrassed homosexuality, your statements makes no sense.
And morons have already petitioned UT and AZ to make polygamy legal.


100 posted on 06/27/2015 4:21:46 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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