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Why the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage could lead to civil war
http://allenbwest.com ^ | June 26, 2015 | Allen B. West

Posted on 06/26/2015 9:31:08 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

[Note: this is an update to an article originally posted on May 4, 2015]

Today the Supreme Court ruled 5 to 4 in favor of same sex marriage in all 50 states. My friends, we are witnessing the end of federalism in our nation. In a single vote, 5 folks basically just told the states to “stick it.”

Furthermore, we are in effect nullifying the First Amendment.

Consider this: what happens when a gay couple goes into a church wanting to plan a ceremony and the pastor says no? We now have a conflict between the First Amendment and individual behavior.

Dissenting Justice Antonin Scalia summed up his disgust with this ruling in a footnote on page 7 (note 22). He says, “If, even as the price to be paid for a fifth vote, I ever joined an opinion for the Court that began: ‘The Constitution promises liberty to all within its reach, a liberty that includes certain specific rights that allow persons, within a lawful realm, to define and express their identity,’ I would hide my head in a bag. The Supreme Court of the United States has descended from the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Story to the mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie.”

With this ruling, the Supreme Court is essentially saying individuals have civil rights based on their sexual behavior, and setting up a monumental battle with the free exercise of religion. This could well be the straw that breaks the camel’s back – that camel being the up till now silent, passive Americans who have been cowed into “tolerating” societal changes that go counter to their fundamental beliefs.

As reported by the Christian Post in April, “The United States Supreme Court may soon liberate the biblically conservative church from old “prejudices” that should have long ago been “jettisoned,” forcing it into “rightly bowing to the enlightenments of modernity,” in the words of a recent writer in The New York Times.”

“Homosexuality must be removed from the “sin list” and, according to an MSNBC commentator, traditional marriage proponents must be forced “to do things they don’t want to do.” Sadly, this crusade will be like the Marxist “liberation” movements that promised to “free” people, but really were about control and suppression. The culmination may come as the Supreme Court hears oral arguments on same-sex marriage cases beginning April 28. By July 1 the Court possibly will issue an official ruling regarding the constitutional right to homosexual marriage. The Court’s decision may impact the form of biblically based churches dramatically. Churches that hold to a strict and conservative interpretation of the Bible’s teaching about gender and marriage may find themselves “Romanized”. The elites of first century Rome would not allow the church an institutional presence in society. “The Christian churches were associations which were not legally authorized, and the Roman authorities, always suspicious of organizations which might prove seditious, regarded them with jaundiced eye,” writes Kenneth Scott LaTourette.”

I found the statement “rightly bowing to the enlightenments of modernity” as rather odd. And the comments from the MSNBC commentator of “traditional marriage proponents being ‘forced’ to do the things they don’t want to do” as somewhat threatening.

These statements by progressive socialists are indicative of a lack of regard and respect for the First Amendment right of religious liberty. Here is where I see an incredible philosophical battle looming. Now that SCOTUS has ruled there is a constitutional right to marriage – which I fail to see how that could be construed — and the radical gay left decides to push the envelope against churches, it will be a strategic miscalculation for the liberal left.

This is why the solution of civil unions should have been the solution. If the country is “forced” to accept something that goes counter to a traditional value, there will undoubtedly be push back. And that push back will result in a galvanizing issue which I do not believe the liberal progressive left fully comprehends.

It’s simple — in the 2012 presidential election there were some five to seven million evangelical Christian voters who sat it out. They were not inspired and therefore did not participate. However, I believe with this decision, the left has overextended itself — as it has already based on courts overturning electorate decisions – and you will see a social conservative issue that will have greater prominence. Some on the center-right will say, drop it, that’s a bad policy recommendation. This issue will not lend itself to dismissal and cognitive dissonance — there must be a solution. The social conservative issue of marriage will not be thrown upon the ash heap. It shouldn’t be the prominent issue, but it does have cross interest appeal.

The Christian Post postulated, “What happens if local churches that do not embrace same-sex marriage find their legal status shaky or non-existent, as well as parachurch groups, conservative Christian colleges, church-based humanitarian agencies, and all other religious institutions – Christian and otherwise – supporting the traditional view of marriage. Without state-recognized corporate status everything from mortgages and building permits to employment and hiring practices is threatened – all of them essential for institutional function.”

“Journalist Ben Shapiro notes that there is already a movement on the state level “to revoke non-profit status for religious organizations that do not abide by same-sex marriage.” The Supreme Court’s decision could make churches refusing to comply “private institutions engaging in commerce,” and therefore subject to laws already in place. Refusal to perform a same-sex wedding would put a church out of business. Current trends seem to flow against conservative religious institutions. All the elites that set and propagate cultural consensus are aligned in support of same-sex marriage – the Entertainment Establishment, Information Establishment, Academic Establishment, and Political Establishment.”

However, are the entertainment, information (media), academic, and political establishments truly representative of American culture? Or do they just have a more prominent position, making us believe they have a majority opinion?

There has been little talk about how, during the Obama wave of 2008, same-sex marriage ballot proposals in two states did not win as liberal progressives and the gay left had hoped – in Florida and California. The quiet point that no one wanted to comprehend was that countless droves of black voters swarmed to the polls. And as they voted for the “first black president” they did NOT vote to bring about gay marriage in their states. Why? Because of traditional biblical beliefs. Now, in 2008, Obama stated he didn’t support gay marriage — when he decided to flip flop — the hushed-up secret was the anger and disdain this caused with many black pastors and ministers. We all know the Democrats wholeheartedly depend on an obedient black electoral patronage — what if 25 percent of blacks say no?

And let me be clear, the Hispanic community is very religious, traditional and family-oriented as well. An ill-conceived assault against the church — a rallying point across the minority communities — could bode dismay for the liberal progressives of the Democrat party heading into the 2016 election year. It could be a policy issue that works against the left and galvanizes those who support traditional marriage.

I know there are folks on the liberal progressive left who frequent this website. So here is my message. The Christian church community is a lot bigger and more powerful than you think — they kept a Republican from winning the White House. And these aren’t just old white men – there’s a growing young Christian constituency. You can criticize the Christian right all you want, but surrendering one’s faith principle for political gain is not a viable proposition. And in the case of prosecution of the Christian church, there could be a rallying of churches, regardless of race, the likes of which this nation has not seen.

The SCOTUS decision on same-sex marriage is not about the issue itself — it is about individual religious freedom and the imposition of the State’s will against faith. After all, it is the original reason why the Pilgrims fled England. And since there is no place for men and women of faith to retreat — they will make a stand. This ain’t first century Rome.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: culturewars; cwii; homosexualagenda
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To: gr8eman
The “theory” of Countervailing Forces will become law after this, IMO. I’m just waiting to see the progressives try to make Imams in Dearbornistan perform same sex weddings.

Please tell me you aren't seriously expecting this?

Islam and the evil Left have one common enemy -- Christianity.

No gay couple will ever attempt to have a ceremony in a mosque. The militants gays don't truly care about gay marriage -- their obsession is the elimination of Christianity.

The utterly evil left wants Christians humiliated and then exterminated. The left is that evil.

81 posted on 06/26/2015 10:14:39 AM PDT by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: AppyPappy

Or “Baptistized”


82 posted on 06/26/2015 10:15:24 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Black protestants, as in those that “went to heaven” in the worlds of Nikki Haley in Charleston. 96% of blacks voted for pro-abortion, pro queer “marriage” Obama, and almost all of them go to church 3 or 4 times a week and will tell you know “Christian” they are and how much they “love the lord”. The problem is they love democrats more than they love the Lord.


83 posted on 06/26/2015 10:16:42 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Lurker

“Well, he is right about one thing. The Christian right did indeed make sure a Republican didn’t win the White House.”

I wasn’t aware a Republican was running.


Very good!!


84 posted on 06/26/2015 10:17:12 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

Candid worlds have gone the way of the dodo


85 posted on 06/26/2015 10:17:36 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: NKP_Vet

The support for Obama fell, though, when he came out of the closet.


86 posted on 06/26/2015 10:18:36 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: AppyPappy

95% of these black “christians” vote pro-abortion and queer “marriage”. What God do they worship? Not the one I’m familiar with.


87 posted on 06/26/2015 10:19:06 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

No they don’t, the precinct captain votes for them.


88 posted on 06/26/2015 10:21:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: FreedomStar3028

If the recent past is any indicator, they will lay down, and those elected that failed us will get a pass.


89 posted on 06/26/2015 10:22:20 AM PDT by KEVLAR (Liberty or Death)
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To: gr8eman

Since the target is Christianity, they’ll not push this against the Muslims,
and simply let them be and ignore any accusations of hypocrisy.

“what happens when a gay couple goes into a church wanting to plan a ceremony and the pastor says no? We now have a conflict between the First Amendment and individual behavior”

Look for, before the end of July, homos to actively seek out evangelical churches that refuse them in order to bring down the wrath of the State on that church.


90 posted on 06/26/2015 10:24:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: refermech
The Christian right did indeed make sure a Republican didn’t win the White House.

It wasn't the "Christian right." It was the moochers,looters and inner city tribal parasites plus massive voter fraud.

91 posted on 06/26/2015 10:26:27 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: papertyger
I'm not sure how you can blame the Republicans for this. Out of the 4 dissenters, all were appointed by Republican presidents. Out of the 5 criminals, 3 of them were appointed by Democrat presidents.

The harsh truth is that you no longer live in a nation whose citizens know, want, or deserve freedom. There's plenty of blame for that to go around, and it's going to take a major dislocation to reverse it.

92 posted on 06/26/2015 10:26:31 AM PDT by Campion
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To: refermech
The Christian right did indeed make sure a Republican didn’t win the White House.

Naw, it was the GOP-e that ensured it. They are doing their damnedest to ensure it happens again, too.

93 posted on 06/26/2015 10:27:35 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: greene66

I agree. Oklahoma, Texas and the states of the Old South need to form a new country - the Free States of America.


94 posted on 06/26/2015 10:27:41 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: garjog
Arrests and persecution ahead?

Yes very much so.

95 posted on 06/26/2015 10:27:42 AM PDT by expatguy (Donate to "An American Expat in SE Asia")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The question should be something more like, does there look like there is a good enough relationship going between God and the man that it is worth cheering for it to continue and improve.

Respectfully, that does not square with the Parable of the Talents.

96 posted on 06/26/2015 10:27:56 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: NKP_Vet

West’s essay is the first light of strong encouragement I’ve had since the decision was read this morning.


97 posted on 06/26/2015 10:28:15 AM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3)
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To: Bluewater2015

The Obama administration is already forcing other countries to accept gay marriage or they won’t get foreign aid.


98 posted on 06/26/2015 10:29:13 AM PDT by expatguy (Donate to "An American Expat in SE Asia")
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To: Campion
I'm not sure how you can blame the Republicans for this.

Call it bureaucratic inertia. We've lost so much that didn't require a heavy investment of political capital that something like this hit the ground as a fait accompli.

99 posted on 06/26/2015 10:33:24 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: bgill

“Let the blue states secede.”

Why? You want a bigger piece of that 700 trillion debt for yourself?

Nullification has its benefits.

I didn’t sink the ship of state. Why should I go down with it?


100 posted on 06/26/2015 10:34:19 AM PDT by Justa
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