Posted on 06/26/2015 9:31:08 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
[Note: this is an update to an article originally posted on May 4, 2015]
Today the Supreme Court ruled 5 to 4 in favor of same sex marriage in all 50 states. My friends, we are witnessing the end of federalism in our nation. In a single vote, 5 folks basically just told the states to stick it.
Furthermore, we are in effect nullifying the First Amendment.
Consider this: what happens when a gay couple goes into a church wanting to plan a ceremony and the pastor says no? We now have a conflict between the First Amendment and individual behavior.
Dissenting Justice Antonin Scalia summed up his disgust with this ruling in a footnote on page 7 (note 22). He says, If, even as the price to be paid for a fifth vote, I ever joined an opinion for the Court that began: The Constitution promises liberty to all within its reach, a liberty that includes certain specific rights that allow persons, within a lawful realm, to define and express their identity, I would hide my head in a bag. The Supreme Court of the United States has descended from the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Story to the mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie.
With this ruling, the Supreme Court is essentially saying individuals have civil rights based on their sexual behavior, and setting up a monumental battle with the free exercise of religion. This could well be the straw that breaks the camels back that camel being the up till now silent, passive Americans who have been cowed into tolerating societal changes that go counter to their fundamental beliefs.
As reported by the Christian Post in April, The United States Supreme Court may soon liberate the biblically conservative church from old prejudices that should have long ago been jettisoned, forcing it into rightly bowing to the enlightenments of modernity, in the words of a recent writer in The New York Times.
Homosexuality must be removed from the sin list and, according to an MSNBC commentator, traditional marriage proponents must be forced to do things they dont want to do. Sadly, this crusade will be like the Marxist liberation movements that promised to free people, but really were about control and suppression. The culmination may come as the Supreme Court hears oral arguments on same-sex marriage cases beginning April 28. By July 1 the Court possibly will issue an official ruling regarding the constitutional right to homosexual marriage. The Courts decision may impact the form of biblically based churches dramatically. Churches that hold to a strict and conservative interpretation of the Bibles teaching about gender and marriage may find themselves Romanized. The elites of first century Rome would not allow the church an institutional presence in society. The Christian churches were associations which were not legally authorized, and the Roman authorities, always suspicious of organizations which might prove seditious, regarded them with jaundiced eye, writes Kenneth Scott LaTourette.
I found the statement rightly bowing to the enlightenments of modernity as rather odd. And the comments from the MSNBC commentator of traditional marriage proponents being forced to do the things they dont want to do as somewhat threatening.
These statements by progressive socialists are indicative of a lack of regard and respect for the First Amendment right of religious liberty. Here is where I see an incredible philosophical battle looming. Now that SCOTUS has ruled there is a constitutional right to marriage which I fail to see how that could be construed and the radical gay left decides to push the envelope against churches, it will be a strategic miscalculation for the liberal left.
This is why the solution of civil unions should have been the solution. If the country is forced to accept something that goes counter to a traditional value, there will undoubtedly be push back. And that push back will result in a galvanizing issue which I do not believe the liberal progressive left fully comprehends.
Its simple in the 2012 presidential election there were some five to seven million evangelical Christian voters who sat it out. They were not inspired and therefore did not participate. However, I believe with this decision, the left has overextended itself as it has already based on courts overturning electorate decisions and you will see a social conservative issue that will have greater prominence. Some on the center-right will say, drop it, thats a bad policy recommendation. This issue will not lend itself to dismissal and cognitive dissonance there must be a solution. The social conservative issue of marriage will not be thrown upon the ash heap. It shouldnt be the prominent issue, but it does have cross interest appeal.
The Christian Post postulated, What happens if local churches that do not embrace same-sex marriage find their legal status shaky or non-existent, as well as parachurch groups, conservative Christian colleges, church-based humanitarian agencies, and all other religious institutions Christian and otherwise supporting the traditional view of marriage. Without state-recognized corporate status everything from mortgages and building permits to employment and hiring practices is threatened all of them essential for institutional function.
Journalist Ben Shapiro notes that there is already a movement on the state level to revoke non-profit status for religious organizations that do not abide by same-sex marriage. The Supreme Courts decision could make churches refusing to comply private institutions engaging in commerce, and therefore subject to laws already in place. Refusal to perform a same-sex wedding would put a church out of business. Current trends seem to flow against conservative religious institutions. All the elites that set and propagate cultural consensus are aligned in support of same-sex marriage the Entertainment Establishment, Information Establishment, Academic Establishment, and Political Establishment.
However, are the entertainment, information (media), academic, and political establishments truly representative of American culture? Or do they just have a more prominent position, making us believe they have a majority opinion?
There has been little talk about how, during the Obama wave of 2008, same-sex marriage ballot proposals in two states did not win as liberal progressives and the gay left had hoped in Florida and California. The quiet point that no one wanted to comprehend was that countless droves of black voters swarmed to the polls. And as they voted for the first black president they did NOT vote to bring about gay marriage in their states. Why? Because of traditional biblical beliefs. Now, in 2008, Obama stated he didnt support gay marriage when he decided to flip flop the hushed-up secret was the anger and disdain this caused with many black pastors and ministers. We all know the Democrats wholeheartedly depend on an obedient black electoral patronage what if 25 percent of blacks say no?
And let me be clear, the Hispanic community is very religious, traditional and family-oriented as well. An ill-conceived assault against the church a rallying point across the minority communities could bode dismay for the liberal progressives of the Democrat party heading into the 2016 election year. It could be a policy issue that works against the left and galvanizes those who support traditional marriage.
I know there are folks on the liberal progressive left who frequent this website. So here is my message. The Christian church community is a lot bigger and more powerful than you think they kept a Republican from winning the White House. And these arent just old white men theres a growing young Christian constituency. You can criticize the Christian right all you want, but surrendering ones faith principle for political gain is not a viable proposition. And in the case of prosecution of the Christian church, there could be a rallying of churches, regardless of race, the likes of which this nation has not seen.
The SCOTUS decision on same-sex marriage is not about the issue itself it is about individual religious freedom and the imposition of the States will against faith. After all, it is the original reason why the Pilgrims fled England. And since there is no place for men and women of faith to retreat they will make a stand. This aint first century Rome.
Please tell me you aren't seriously expecting this?
Islam and the evil Left have one common enemy -- Christianity.
No gay couple will ever attempt to have a ceremony in a mosque. The militants gays don't truly care about gay marriage -- their obsession is the elimination of Christianity.
The utterly evil left wants Christians humiliated and then exterminated. The left is that evil.
Or “Baptistized”
Black protestants, as in those that “went to heaven” in the worlds of Nikki Haley in Charleston. 96% of blacks voted for pro-abortion, pro queer “marriage” Obama, and almost all of them go to church 3 or 4 times a week and will tell you know “Christian” they are and how much they “love the lord”. The problem is they love democrats more than they love the Lord.
Well, he is right about one thing. The Christian right did indeed make sure a Republican didnt win the White House.
I wasnt aware a Republican was running.
Very good!!
Candid worlds have gone the way of the dodo
The support for Obama fell, though, when he came out of the closet.
95% of these black “christians” vote pro-abortion and queer “marriage”. What God do they worship? Not the one I’m familiar with.
No they don’t, the precinct captain votes for them.
If the recent past is any indicator, they will lay down, and those elected that failed us will get a pass.
Since the target is Christianity, they’ll not push this against the Muslims,
and simply let them be and ignore any accusations of hypocrisy.
“what happens when a gay couple goes into a church wanting to plan a ceremony and the pastor says no? We now have a conflict between the First Amendment and individual behavior”
Look for, before the end of July, homos to actively seek out evangelical churches that refuse them in order to bring down the wrath of the State on that church.
It wasn't the "Christian right." It was the moochers,looters and inner city tribal parasites plus massive voter fraud.
The harsh truth is that you no longer live in a nation whose citizens know, want, or deserve freedom. There's plenty of blame for that to go around, and it's going to take a major dislocation to reverse it.
Naw, it was the GOP-e that ensured it. They are doing their damnedest to ensure it happens again, too.
I agree. Oklahoma, Texas and the states of the Old South need to form a new country - the Free States of America.
Yes very much so.
Respectfully, that does not square with the Parable of the Talents.
West’s essay is the first light of strong encouragement I’ve had since the decision was read this morning.
The Obama administration is already forcing other countries to accept gay marriage or they won’t get foreign aid.
Call it bureaucratic inertia. We've lost so much that didn't require a heavy investment of political capital that something like this hit the ground as a fait accompli.
“Let the blue states secede.”
Why? You want a bigger piece of that 700 trillion debt for yourself?
Nullification has its benefits.
I didn’t sink the ship of state. Why should I go down with it?
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