Supreme Court makes it official: Health care is a right

The Boston Globe ^ | June 25, 2015 | Joan Vennochi

[2ndDivisionVet]

Message of King v. Burwell to Republicans: It’s over.

With the Supreme Court’s 6-3 ruling, Obamacare is forever part of the country’s social and economic fabric.

Now it’s time to celebrate what that represents.

The principle that health care is a right, not a privilege, as President Obama exulted.

And that it might not have happened without a Republican named Mitt Romney.

The path to achieving near universal health care coverage came about because Romney, then governor of Massachusetts, worked with Ted Kennedy, a liberal US senator, to make it happen. They worked from two premises: Society has an obligation to provide affordable health coverage, and every individual has a responsibility to get coverage....

[etcb]

Two brief points:

1. The Affordable Care Act is not about health care. It is about insurance. As people realize that possession of an “Insurance Card” does not equate to health care, opposition will grow.

2. The program in it’s present form is not sustainable. It will collapse of it’s own weight or it will collapse the economy. Either way, it will fail. It is only a question of how long it will take.

[super7man]

Society has an obligation to provide affordable health coverage, and every individual has a responsibility to get coverage....

That doesn't make it a right.

[American in Israel]

So I guess socialized medicine and euthanasia are to be celebrated, even though the meaning of law was butchered to enforce it.

Sounds like Marxism to me. That usually ends up in many millions less people needing health care. Guess I will invest in the bodybag industry, or better yet, backhoes and bull dozers.

[Mike Darancette]

Think of it federal healthcare is now a right. The government must now provide it for everyone equally.

[yadent]

The only way healthcare becomes a total federal ‘right’ is if ALL healthcare workers are ‘federalized’ becoming government employees. The knowledge and skills they possess belong to ‘the people’ If a provider refuses to be ‘federalized’, well no license for you. We are closer to that reality than most realize. VERY close.

[Jack Hammer]

One economy - going down!

[john mirse]

2759 Jesus "was praying at a certain place, and when he ceased, one of his disciples said to him, 'Lord, teach us to pray, as John taught his disciples.'"1 In response to this request the Lord entrusts to his disciples and to his Church the fundamental Christian prayer.

St. Luke presents a brief text of five petitions,

2 while St. Matthew gives a more developed version of seven petitions.

3 The liturgical tradition of the Church has retained St. Matthew's text:

Our Father who art in heaven,

hallowed be thy name.

Thy kingdom come.

Thy will be done on earth, as it is in heaven.

Give us this day our daily bread,

and forgive us our trespasses,

as we forgive those who trespass against us,

and lead us not into temptation,

but deliver us from evil.

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Supreme Court ObamaCare decision: It make me sad to watch the Supreme Court use what I describe as zig-zag, upside logic to conclude that the word "state" in the law refers to a generic government exchange and not to exchanges in the individual 50 states.

Supreme Court logic/reasoning and the Lord's Prayer?

Then I started thinking: I wonder what the result would look like if the Supreme Court used the same upside-down logic/reasoning it used in its ObamaCare decision if it was asked to evaluate the Lord's Prayer.

So here goes.

The following is what I believe that Supreme Court Justice Roberts would say about the phrases in the Lord's Prayer that is posted at the beginning of this message if he was asked to evaluate the Prayer.

1. "Our Father who art in heaven,

ROBERTS: "Father? Unacceptable. That is a human term and is not acceptable. What did this Jesus person really mean?

ROBERTS: "Heaven is just not acceptable, because no one has proof that a place like heaven even exists.

2. "Hallowed be thy name?

ROBERTS: What is this word "Hallowed" all about? Did Jesus really mean "Holy?" What did Jesus mean by "Name"? Does this mean that, according to Jesus, the "Father" has a name like Tom or John or Barack?

3. "Thy kingdom come

ROBERTS: What kingdom is this about? Is it invisible or visible? Is it located somewhere out in space, like on one of the billion planets out there? Very confusing.

4. "Thy will be done on earth, as it is in heaven

ROBERTS: "Will"? This Father has a will? Amazing! Does Jesus mean that this invisible Father has free will, or some other type of will unique to this so-called Father?

ROBERTS: What and where is this heaven place? If no one has any idea what is in this heaven, what does Jesus mean by heaven? Is it on another planet in space or is just part of his imagination?

5." Give us this day our daily bread,

ROBERTS: What does this Jesus mean by "bread"? Is he talking about grocery bread one finds at a place like WALMART? Or is he talking about special deli bread? He is certainly not very clear.

6."and forgive us our trespasses

ROBERTS: This is a hard one. Is Jesus talking about trespassing on another person's property? This seems like such a minor offense, so why would this "Father" even bother to busy himself with such a minor action. What laws would the trespasser really be breaking?

7. "as we forgive those who trespass against us,

ROBERTS: "Again, what property laws are these trespassers breaking. and what does this Jesus mean by trespassers? Very confusing. Are we supposed to forgive people who run all over our property or who sneak into our house late at night and try to steal our stuff?

8. "and lead us not into temptation

ROBERTS: Again, very confusing. What does this Jesus mean by temptation? Temptation can refer to anything from being tempted to cheat on a school exam or to look at naughty pictures. What exactly is Jesus talking abut "temptation"? And is Jesus really saying that this "Father" would intentionally take a person by the hand and make him do something that was NOT nice. Again, what does the word "temptation" really mean.

Very confusing.

9. "but deliver us from evil.

ROBERTS: Another hard one. What exactly is this "evil" Jesus is talking about? Is it something a person creates himself, or is it something this invisible "Father" with no name makes up?

ROBERTS:"Deliver?" Is Jesus referring to the Post Office or some Pizza Delivery Service? Very confusing. How can an invisible person like this invisible "Father" deliver anything? Does he have a car or a plane?

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In closing, as I see it, if Justice Roberts used the same upside-down logic he used to write his ObamaCare opinion in favor of Obama on an analysis of the Lord's Prayer, he would look like a fool.

Ten Commandments: Can you imagine how foolish Roberts would look if he applied his ObamaCare absurd logic to his analysis of the Ten Commandments.

[outofsalt]

"Obamacare America is already in actuarial death spiral."

I edited your post for accuracy.

[Alberta's Child]

Here's something really amazing that I read somewhere a few weeks ago (assuming the numbers are accurate): After the last big "amnesty" law was passed during the Reagan administration, less than 30% of the illegal aliens who were eligible for amnesty actually took advantage of it.

That's a remarkable figure that suggests a lot of these people aren't fools. They realize that some dude who immigrated illegally from Mexico, has no legal status here in the U.S., and works for cash is probably more of a free man than any American citizen.

[palmer]

One Republican has an outstanding idea. A bill requiring sitting justices to enroll in Obamacare.

A step in the wrong direction. The people's and state's rights must come first. They need to introduce a bill allowing people to opt out of all government programs.

[bert]

-——it ISN’T OVER-—The outcome created the FReeper dilemma....

Do I again sanctimoniously avoid voting, or do I vote for the Republican sworn to end Obamacare?

[palmer]

saying his Death Panels were "woven" into the fabric of America

Heard him say that on the radio. It was part of NPR's celebratory coverage yesterday. Part of the literal fabric of America is being torn out by the PC zealots. They won't stop there. There is no more fabric of America.

[zzwhale]

healthcare is a RIGHT.... no it is a travesty of JUSTICE...

so is the first and second and the rest of the amendments to the Constitution.... and look at what is being done to them.......
WHERE IN THE CONSTITUTION IS HEALTHCARE MENTIONED... ITS NOT...

ok so what about the self destructive person who smokes, drinks, takes drugs and engages in dangerous activities to excess... and burdens society with the cost of HIS RIGHT...???

SHOULDN’T THE HEALTHCARE LAW BE STRUCTURED TO IMPRISON THESE FOLKS FOR THEIR OWN GOOD.. TO PROTECT THEM FROM THEMSELVES AND DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIOR.. BECAUSE THEY ARE ABUSING THEIR “RIGHT”.... JUST LIKE WE IMPRISON PEOPLE WHO KILL PEOPLE WITH GUNS..??

dont worry, the supreme kangaroo court will hear future cases to remove the RIGHTS THEY DONT LIKE... forget the “law” because
WORDS HAVE NO MEANING...but didnt the great deceiver says WORDS HAVE MEANING.... guess he lied AGAIN

[Sgt_Schultze]

Yeah. Where can I go to get illegal alien status?