Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The One Number That Shows Why Jews Really Vote Liberal
FrontPage Magazine ^ | June 25, 2015 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 06/25/2015 6:04:12 AM PDT by george76

The debate over why Jews vote the way that they do is an old one, but it’s rarely backed by much data except the estimates of the Jewish vote from the last election.

There is, however, one piece of data that currently predicts the Jewish vote. It’s religious attendance.

60 percent of Jews that attend weekly religious services disapprove of Obama. Only 34 percent approve.

Among those who don’t attend religious services, approval of Obama stood at 58 percent to 38 percent.

There are really two Jewish votes; the religious Jewish vote and the secular Jewish vote.

...

When we break it down by behaviors and beliefs, the Jewish vote is not that different than the overall American vote. What is different is the balance of behaviors and beliefs in the Jewish community.

Only 11 percent of American Jews attend religious services weekly. Among Americans in general, it’s over 40 percent...

American Jews had become a liberal outlier globally as Jews in the UK, Canada, Israel and Australia were voting conservative. And Jewish communities in those countries also tend to be relatively more traditional and religious than in the United States.

UK Jews are more than twice as likely to attend synagogue services weekly as American Jews.

...

When asked what it means to be Jewish, 56 percent of American Jews mentioned social justice, 42 percent mentioned comedy and only 43 percent mentioned Israel. 28 percent mentioned being part of a Jewish community. Only 19 percent mentioned anything involving religion.

People with Jewish last names for whom being Jewish is leftist politics and a joke should not be expected to care about Israel. If being Jewish means nothing to them, why would the Jewish State?

(Excerpt) Read more at frontpagemag.com ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Canada; Culture/Society; Extended News; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: australia; canada; demographics; elections; israel; jew; jews; judaism; kikes; liberal; unitedkingdom; voting
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-46 next last
To: george76
The One Number That Shows Why Jews Really Vote Liberal

This is a meaningless proposition. Take your choice at the poll, and you get a Republicrat that follows lockstep with the dictator.

21 posted on 06/25/2015 7:34:02 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (behind enemy lines)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ecomcon

This is pretty much a meaningless article that doesn’t explain the Jewish vote.

as far as Christians, it depends on which denomination they are in.

Catholic Christians vote democrat and almost always have, the majority of non-Catholic Christians, the total of which includes people who don’t belong to or attend any church, perhaps ever, or who have even been baptized, vote republican, and almost always have.

Within the non-Catholic denominations you can see variances among them, a denomination like the Southern Baptists, vote about 80% GOP, the opposite of Jews.


22 posted on 06/25/2015 7:38:27 AM PDT by ansel12 (Trump- I identify as Democrat-- favorite president?-Clinton-- your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Yosemitest

Many Jews know that GW Bush opposed listing Jerusalem, Israel, on passports as much as Obama does. It’s not a partisan issue nor is it limited to Obama.


23 posted on 06/25/2015 7:55:58 AM PDT by hlmencken3 (I paid for an argument, but you're just contradicting!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

So, do all Jews from North Africa, Yemen, Iraq and Persia also descend from Khazar converts?


24 posted on 06/25/2015 7:58:05 AM PDT by hlmencken3 (I paid for an argument, but you're just contradicting!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: george76

Jews are liberal because of genetics. This is evidenced by the fact there are Jews voicing conservative principles, but when they enter the voting booth the strain becomes so severe that they scream and pull the ‘vote democratic lever.’ It is just a fact of nature.


25 posted on 06/25/2015 7:59:49 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Attention Surplus Disorder
There is a certain way to be Jewish after the “plopping”:

The Jew is supposed to observe G-d’s Laws called “Mitzvot”. Mitzvot are commandments or good deeds, like observing Kosher food laws.

Being Jewish is not passive. It requires study, study and more study juts to figure out what we they are supposed to do in this world.

Jews who no longer cling to the Torah, cling to Liberal causes like “Justice for LGBTH Whales” or “Justice for HAMAS/PLO killers”. Justice is the new Torah for those that are ignorant.

It is no coincidence that the further the Jew moves away from his faith and people, the ignorance balloons into supporting similar causes I stated above.

Embrace Torah - Jew or embrace the absurd things in life like Barakeh Hussein Obama.

Your choice, just don't bitch about it later...

26 posted on 06/25/2015 8:03:18 AM PDT by Netz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Buckeye McFrog

LOL!


27 posted on 06/25/2015 8:14:10 AM PDT by Our man in washington
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks george76.
There are really two Jewish votes; the religious Jewish vote and the secular Jewish vote... Only 11 percent of American Jews attend religious services weekly. Among Americans in general, it's over 40 percent...
Of that 40 percent, how many attend fake religious services like that offered up by the Nation of Islam?
28 posted on 06/25/2015 11:04:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hlmencken3

I don’t know. But many Jewish Americans are paying a lot of money for DNA testing. Many are really concerned that they are not “real Jews.” I worked with one that was proud to exclaim that her DNA testing traced back to the Israeli area.

I didn’t have the heart to tell her that according to the Old Testament we are all descended from Adam and Even and that therefore everyone can trace themselves back through that entire region at some point in our bloodline.


29 posted on 06/25/2015 5:55:00 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Carter...Reagan...Bush...Clinton....Bush....Carter....BUSH? / CLINTON? STOP THE INSANITY!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: LouAvul

As I just posted in this thread, many Jews in America are concerned that they are not “real” Jews (merely descended from those who converted in Khazaria) and they are paying for DNA tests to prove their “authenticity.”


30 posted on 06/25/2015 5:57:40 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Carter...Reagan...Bush...Clinton....Bush....Carter....BUSH? / CLINTON? STOP THE INSANITY!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: george76

Something is funny about this. He gets (estimated) an over-all approval of about 50 percent yet gets over 70 percent of their votes!


31 posted on 06/25/2015 6:03:33 PM PDT by TexasGator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Well, are these true Jews with genetic roots back to the 12 Tribes?

Or are they Khazar Jews who are descended from a Caucasian ethnicity that adopted Judaism for political and economic power (so they wouldn’t have to fight the Muslims on one side of their empire and the Christians on the other side)?

I think a lot of Jewish Americans who are not practicing Jews and who are hardcore secularists (that is, JINOs) and who use their “Jewish heritage/culture” to push a socialist/communist agenda have more in common with the character of the Khazars than they do the Jews I study in the Old Testament.

First of all, the idea that "liberal Jews" are liberal because they aren't really Hebrews but "Khazars" is pseudoscientific nonsense. The whole "Khazar" thing was seized upon by Arthur Koestler (a non-observant Jew) for the purpose of getting Jews declassified as Semites so anti-Semites wouldn't hate them any more.

What happened was that those same people turned around and then started hating them for not being Semites. Koestler's suggestion was taken up by Jew-haters who have run with it ever since.

I have no doubt that to your mind the "real Jews" of the "old testament" were chrstians. Of course, it is historically impossible because chrstianity did not exist at the time. They were Torah observant Jews just as Orthodox Jews are today, except that they lived the original Jewish context of a Theocratic state in the Holy Land rather than as an "oppressed urban left-wing minority."

I actually agree with you that the behavior of most Jews today--even the religious ones--is quite disappointing in comparison to Yehoshu`a Bin Nun (who exterminated whole nations because G-d ordered him to rather than build a "museum of tolerance" or engage in secular zeitgeist terminology). But none of this is due to genes or chromosomes. It is because Jews lost their original Theocratic sovereignty so long ago most now can't even remember it and seem to reflexively define themselves as a "minority group" on all issues whatsoever ("if they come for the gays, we're next!!!"). Though please note on the last example that American conservative chrstians sound like liberals when they criticize moslems for "persecuting gays" and not having "separation of church and state."

The crowning event in this tragic descent, however, was the eighteenth century European "enlightenment" which has been internalized to such an extent that for most Jews, Voltaire might as well have been the messiah.

PS: Voltaire was an anti-Semite, as were most of the "enlightenment" philosophers.

32 posted on 06/25/2015 6:35:06 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

I don’t believe I’ve ever seen an article in a Jewish publication where the author is agonizing he might be a Khazar.

And you should probably brush up on the rudiments of DNA.


33 posted on 06/25/2015 6:47:31 PM PDT by hlmencken3 (I paid for an argument, but you're just contradicting!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: MrB
Pretty much not a “Jewish” thing, but an atheist thing, independent of ancestry.

I would argue that the radicalism of Jewish vs. Non-Jewish leftists is quite different in motivation, in the sense that radicalism on the part of a majority has different psychological motives than of a minority.

In the US, when somebody from a white, Christian background (majority) becomes politically radical, they are rebelling against and rejecting their own culture. When somebody of a designated ethnic or religious "minority" group becomes leftist, their radicalism is mostly driven by hostility or fear of the majority. They aren't primarily rejecting or attacking their own culture, but the majority culture.

Of course, in Israel where Jews are the majority, this would be reversed, Israeli liberals/radicals do seem to be motivated by self-hatred.

34 posted on 06/26/2015 10:11:41 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Well, are these true Jews with genetic roots back to the 12 Tribes?
Or are they Khazar Jews who are descended from a Caucasian ethnicity that adopted Judaism for political and economic power (so they wouldn’t have to fight the Muslims on one side of their empire and the Christians on the other side)?

Khazars were Oghur Turks with an empire that included Cis-Caucasia but included most of the Pontic and Caspian Steppe. They were not Caucasian. Aside from your not knowing who they were, and where they existed, I am not surprised that you are unaware that all genetic studies have shown no significant Turkic genetic influence on Ashkenazi Jews in general. The only Turkic Jews are the few hundred Karaylar (Tatar Karaites) and all but wiped out Krymchaks (Tatar Rabbinate Jews). It is no surprise then that Karaylar, who come from an area that was once part of Khazaria, claim to be Khazars. In fact, in the 19th Century, they claimed not to be Jews at all. Rather, they claimed to be Turks of the Mosaic faith to avoid Russian anti-Jewish laws, and in the 1940s escapted the clutches the SS. (I could get into the faustian deal they made to survive. Suffice to say, it involved turning over Krymchaks to be killed.) If you actually want to find out about Khazars, go to http://www.khazaria.com/

PS. I am one of those Jews with some Khazar ancestry on my father's side. That doesn't make us leftists.

35 posted on 06/26/2015 7:19:01 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
I don’t know. But many Jewish Americans are paying a lot of money for DNA testing. Many are really concerned that they are not “real Jews.” I worked with one that was proud to exclaim that her DNA testing traced back to the Israeli area.
It might also have something to do with the number of recessive genetic disorders we carry from over 1000 years of mostly endogymous marriage.
36 posted on 06/26/2015 7:21:51 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: rmlew

I didn’t say all were leftists, but there are many JINOs in this country (as there were in Germany, esp. in academe, who were communists) that push fiercely for secularist, authoritarian governments.

I could never understand why, with the history of the Jews in the Old Testament so clearly demonstrating that when His people abandon him for worldly pursuits, they run themselves into utter chaos and danger and only survive because He saves them.

But I suppose it is like any group that uses their group identity to push some ulterior agenda.

As far as the genetic lines from that reason and who was “Caucasian,” there was so much raping and intermarrying that the bloodlines from that epoch are completely blurred. Khazaria controlled the Caucasus mountains and the seat of their empire was in its shadows. If you want to split hairs over calling them Caucasian, go right ahead. The point is that they were an eastern European pagan empire constantly fighting the Muslims on one side and the Christians on the other. Their solution was quite clever: they adopted the religion that was father to both of them.


37 posted on 06/26/2015 8:57:30 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Carter...Reagan...Bush...Clinton....Bush....Carter....BUSH? / CLINTON? STOP THE INSANITY!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Or are they Khazar Jews who are descended from a Caucasian ethnicity that adopted Judaism for political and economic power (so they wouldn’t have to fight the Muslims on one side of their empire and the Christians on the other side)?

The Khazar rulers were Turkic peoples who ruled what is now southern Russia and the Ukraine for centuries around the birth of Islam. They were turkic, not caucasian. They ruled over Slavic, Germanic, Irani (Alan), Ugric peoples, but there is no evidence that these ruled-over peoples ever converted to Judaism

The elites converted to Judaism -- it is conjecture to say they did it for political or economic reasons -- they could have stayed with shamanism or Tengriism

Also note that European Jews share the same genetic materials as Jews from the middle east, india, etc

38 posted on 06/30/2015 4:38:51 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: LouAvul

Genetics can prove it


39 posted on 06/30/2015 4:39:09 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: rmlew

fascinating. thanks! I didn’t know this


40 posted on 06/30/2015 4:56:18 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-46 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson