Posted on 06/23/2015 4:29:02 AM PDT by Leto
As a general matter, I agree (as did Ronald Reagan) that free trade is good for America; when we open up foreign markets, it helps American farmers, ranchers, and manufacturers. But TPA in this Congress has become enmeshed in corrupt Washington backroom deal-making, along with serious concerns that it would open up the potential for sweeping changes in our laws that trade agreements typically do not include. Since the Senate first voted on TPA, there have been two material changes. First, WikiLeaks subsequently revealed new troubling information regarding the Trade in Services Agreement, or TiSA, one of the trade deals being negotiated by Obama. Despite the administrations public assurances that it was not negotiating on immigration, several chapters of the TiSA draft posted online explicitly contained potential changes in federal immigration law. TPA would cover TiSA, and therefore these changes would presumably be subject to be fast-track. When TPA last came up for a vote, both Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL)80% and I introduced amendments that would have barred fast-track treatment for any trade agreement that attempted to impact immigration law. Two other Republican senators objected, and we were both denied votes on our amendments. Instead, the House inserted substantially weaker language in related legislation.
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It’s horrible.We went to the polls and made it clear we didn’t want any more secret Obama crap. The Republicans are not listening to us. Right now I’m especially disgusted with that little crybaby sh*t Boehner.
Trump has never been my ‘boy’ however you could literally elect a cow to be a congressman or president and it would be an improvement over any current politician....whether it be an (R) or a (D).
This Obama trade deal is a trojan horse.Its disguised as free trade What It really allows is for Obama to flood the USA with an unlimited number of 3rd world immigrants ...
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/20710-obama-gop-trade-scheme-includes-unrestricted-immigration
This Fast track gives Obama power to make treaties that override U.S. laws. Its the destruction of the republic.It gives obama unlimited dictatorial power to destroy the U.S. Proof here :
http://getliberty.org/oppose-trade-authority-for-obama-on-pacific-trade-deal/
http://www.conservativehq.com/node/20233 .
i don't care about your candidate. you all just finally roped me into naming him on this thread only. before that never did i hardly ever name him . all i posted was some of the above and supporters of this candidate then tried to negate my warnings about this horrible obamatrade . so we argued about this obamatrade. i care about jobs and America being destroyed by this obamatrade and immigrants overrunning the USA . my main beef now is that supporters of this candidate campaigned for the passage of this obamatrade. those that did push obamatrade are guilty of it's passing now and the destruction of America.
that’s a bunch of lies. I hardly mentioned cruz until this thread . my history is there. I tried to wan people about how deadly this obamatrade is . and now you all roped me into a cruz debate on THIS thread only. i don’t car about any cruz . all i wanted was that obamatrade bill stopped. and i never expect the posts from freepers who supported the obamatrade and i got into debates about that which is a trojan horse.
I tried to warn people here about how this obamatrade was a trojan horse to destroy America but many here attacked me and campaigned for this obama agenda of obamatrade
This Obama trade deal is a trojan horse.Its disguised as free trade What It really allows is for Obama to flood the USA with an unlimited number of 3rd world immigrants ...
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/20710-obama-gop-trade-scheme-includes-unrestricted-immigration
This Fast track gives Obama power to make treaties that override U.S. laws. Its the destruction of the republic.It gives obama unlimited dictatorial power to destroy the U.S. Proof here :
http://getliberty.org/oppose-trade-authority-for-obama-on-pacific-trade-deal/
http://www.conservativehq.com/node/20233 .
Obama has been working on this TPP obamatrade agreement for at least 5 years in Secret.
Congress just voted to give Obama fast track trade promotion authority to pass this horrendous trojan horse secret agreement. That means that Congress cannot even debate about this nor add amendments and only 51% of the vote is needed to pass it instead of the usual 60% needed (cloture) .
This TPP is something that the left and Obama have been crafting for 5 years and now gets no debate and cannot even seen by the American people only after they shove it down our throat.
They voted to let Obama act like a dictator to pass this country destroying TPP. So Obama gets to pass his own law in which the left have crafted MANY ways to get around U.S. immigration law. They call it trade in services which is really Obamas immigration agenda. If you read these links youll see all this is true. One link is from Jeff Sessions.
and those who campaigned for the passage of obamatrade here are responsible for it passing and destroying America. we are done
This Obama trade deal is a trojan horse.Its disguised as free trade What It really allows is for Obama to flood the USA with an unlimited number of 3rd world immigrants ...
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/20710-obama-gop-trade-scheme-includes-unrestricted-immigration
This Fast track gives Obama power to make treaties that override U.S. laws. Its the destruction of the republic.It gives obama unlimited dictatorial power to destroy the U.S. Proof here :
http://getliberty.org/oppose-trade-authority-for-obama-on-pacific-trade-deal/
http://www.conservativehq.com/node/20233 .
Obama has been working on this TPP obamatrade agreement for at least 5 years in Secret.
Congress just voted to give Obama fast track trade promotion authority to pass this horrendous trojan horse secret agreement. That means that Congress cannot even debate about this nor add amendments and only 51% of the vote is needed to pass it instead of the usual 60% needed (cloture) .
This TPP is something that the left and Obama have been crafting for 5 years and now gets no debate and cannot even seen by the American people only after they shove it down our throat.
They voted to let Obama act like a dictator to pass this country destroying TPP. So Obama gets to pass his own law in which the left have crafted MANY ways to get around U.S. immigration law. They call it trade in services which is really Obamas immigration agenda. If you read these links youll see all this is true. One link is from Jeff Sessions.
There is no such thing as “free trade”. That is why these so called Free Trade Agreements are hundreds of pages long.
Any agreement between nations that binds the United States is a Treaty and fast tracking is a violation of the Constitutional requirement that treaties be ratified by 2/3 of the Senate.
These “trade agreements” are the result of lobbying from big international corporations and foreign governments. They almost never benefit the United States and that is why they would never get 2/3 of the Senate if they actually called them by the name that every other country that signs them calls them... TREATIES.
The founders were very wary of Presidents negotiating away the sovereignty of the United States. That is why they put in the Treaty Clause and the 2/3 requirement.
Back then the Senators represented the individual states rather than the Wal Mart masses. The idea was that any agreement that the United States entered into would need a supermajority of the States to be on board.
The 16th Amendment did not amend the Treaty Clause. If the country wants to fast track these treaties, then they need to do it by way of a constitutional amendment rather than a supreme court decision.
This Obama trade deal is a trojan horse.Its disguised as free trade What It really allows is for Obama to flood the USA with an unlimited number of 3rd world immigrants ...
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/20710-obama-gop-trade-scheme-includes-unrestricted-immigration
This Fast track gives Obama power to make treaties that override U.S. laws. Its the destruction of the republic.It gives obama unlimited dictatorial power to destroy the U.S. Proof here :
http://getliberty.org/oppose-trade-authority-for-obama-on-pacific-trade-deal/
http://www.conservativehq.com/node/20233 .
Obama has been working on this TPP obamatrade agreement for at least 5 years in Secret.
Congress just voted to give Obama fast track trade promotion authority to pass this horrendous trojan horse secret agreement. That means that Congress cannot even debate about this nor add amendments and only 51% of the vote is needed to pass it instead of the usual 60% needed (cloture) .
This TPP is something that the left and Obama have been crafting for 5 years and now gets no debate and cannot even seen by the American people only after they shove it down our throat.
They voted to let Obama act like a dictator to pass this country destroying TPP. So Obama gets to pass his own law in which the left have crafted MANY ways to get around U.S. immigration law. They call it trade in services which is really Obamas immigration agenda. If you read these links youll see all this is true. One link is from Jeff Sessions.
This Obama trade deal is a trojan horse.Its disguised as free trade What It really allows is for Obama to flood the USA with an unlimited number of 3rd world immigrants ...
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/20710-obama-gop-trade-scheme-includes-unrestricted-immigration
This Fast track gives Obama power to make treaties that override U.S. laws. Its the destruction of the republic.It gives obama unlimited dictatorial power to destroy the U.S. Proof here :
http://getliberty.org/oppose-trade-authority-for-obama-on-pacific-trade-deal/
http://www.conservativehq.com/node/20233 .
It’s this kind of crap that argues for another party.
Clearly, these GOPe b@$t@rds are only out for themselves.
Bonus points for Sessions and Cruz.
I like the ideas, but my argument would be that we need people in Congress who will help PROTECT these organizations and companies from Tyranny. Unfortunately, we don’t have many who will stand
I’ve seen these posts and links of opinions and thoughts about TPA and TPP time and again on the threads....as much those who see otherwise.
People are more than willingly to draw their own conclusions based on ‘their own research into the facts’ as they are and not some journalist or politicians political agenda to move the population accordingly.
Every link you’ve given is a writers opinion on what they perceive TPA and TPP mean. How about print the actual information or links from TPA and as much as possible from TPP????
I’ve seen these posts and links of opinions and thoughts about TPA and TPP time and again on the threads....as much those who see otherwise.
People are more than willingly to draw their own conclusions based on ‘their own research into the facts’ as they are and not some journalist or politicians political agenda to move the population accordingly.
Every link you’ve given is a writers opinion on what they perceive TPA and TPP mean. How about print the actual information or links from TPA and as much as possible from TPP????
I’m not a troll. You can check my posting history.
Making snotty remarks like “poor little baby” does not further a civil discussion. Name-calling is a liberal tactic. I expect more on FR.
If you listen to Ted Cruz talk about the trade bills (or any issues, for that matter), you can hear the sincerity in his voice and with the things he says, that he isn’t about playing political games or theater...he’s about right vs. wrong and a Constitutional America vs. Totalitarianism.
I’m so sick of people bashing him, without ever hearing his actual words or reasons behind what he does, and tearing down, who I think, is the best candidate we can ask for at this time in history.
It amazes me, all these people who LOVED Reagan and wish he could be here.....that they don’t see Ted Cruz is that other Reagan. Is he 100% perfect? No. Was Reagan? No. But there is NO candidate that will be 100% on board with EVERYTHING we do, because WE are not all 100% on board with the same things. It’s impossible. The fact that Cruz has THE highest Conservative rating in politics, that he espouses his FAITH ALL the time, talks about God as often and humbly as he does, and brings God into everything he does....speaks VOLUMES about who this man is. He’s either THE BEST actor and fraud ever, or he’s the exact opposite of the typical politician in DC. I believe it’s the latter, especially considering his track record of actions matching words, and as we all know, actions speak louder than words.
You do not know what you are talking about and I would reckon you’ve never spend any time listening to Ted Cruz discuss his views on America, the Constitution, God, Family, the President, our government, Totalitarianism, etc.
Because if you had, you would fully recognize that your line of reasoning is fraudulent and doesn’t fit with Ted Cruz and who HE is.
And as I said before, if Cruz had voted Nay the first time, I believe less people would have done their own research, and/or be as informed about TPA, TPP, TAA, etc., as they are now.
Well said. I agree wholeheartedly.
” Because you NEVER empower a liberal. Ever”
This includes liberal Republicans that so many here promote.
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