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Why Nikki Haley is smart to want to remove South Carolina’s Confederate flag
WaPo ^ | 6/22/15 | Philip Bump

Posted on 06/22/2015 11:48:57 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson

Edited on 06/22/2015 12:13:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

During a press conference on Monday, Gov. Nikki Haley will ask that the Confederate flag on the grounds of South Carolina's capitol be removed, according to the Post and Courier. The move from the popular governor (reelected last year by 15 points and with 79 percent approval last April) will almost certainly help encourage the state legislature to vote for removal. As it stands, the legislature needs a two-thirds vote to make that happen -- a high bar.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; confederacy; dixie; nikkihaley; southcarolina
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To: Mollypitcher1
The NORTH (The FED) AFTER THE WAR STARTED (1863) declared all SOUTHERN slaves free which bankrupted the southern states.

Poor babies.

The YANKEE SLAVE HOLDERS INCLUDING BLACK SLAVEHOLDERS were NOT affected.

States like Maryland and Missouri freed slaves, without compensation, in late 1864 - early 1865. And the 13th Amendment freed any that were left, also without compensation. So at the end of the day the YANKEE SLAVE HOLDERS INCLUDING BLACK SLAVEHOLDERS were affected too.

Yankees, not southerners made FORTUNES off the Slave trade as did FOREIGN companies.

Southerners were involved in the slave trade. And, of course, Southerners made a fortune off the slaves they bought.

Had the south, an agricultural economy,been recompensed for their losses so that they could buy agricultural machinery at UNTAXED(Tariff) prices, the war would never have happened.

I have no idea what point you're aiming at here. But I think you're missing it by a wide margin.

The War of Northern Aggression was exactly that!

Leaving out the minor fact that the South was the one who started the war.

161 posted on 06/22/2015 4:28:50 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: RightGeek
If you think a well known historical song is a hate crime...

Hate, yes. But crime? No, not at all. The First Amendment protected him, so ironically Innes Randolph was protected by that very Constitution he hated so much. And, more irony, he also spent the rest of his post-war life making a very good living in the Republic he detested. Like so many Rebs then and now, he talked a good game but when push came to shove he stayed right in the good ol' USA.

162 posted on 06/22/2015 4:32:41 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

You go right ahead and think what you want. No amount of explaining will get the FACTS through to you.


163 posted on 06/22/2015 4:48:05 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1
No amount of explaining will get the FACTS through to you.

Facts and you don't seem to have collided on any of your posts so far. But I'll continue to watch your posts and hope.

164 posted on 06/22/2015 4:54:40 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Mollypitcher1

remember kids...

surrendering to the mob is “smart”


165 posted on 06/22/2015 4:54:47 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

There are certainly a lot of “smart” people on this thread.SARC.
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remember kids...

surrendering to the mob is “smart”


166 posted on 06/22/2015 5:06:43 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mmogamer

The federal government IS supreme in its sphere. That’s what the Supremacy Clause means. And in fact Americans have all sorts of rights, most of which come out of the US constitution. You would know how lucky we are if you studied history or traveled abroad. You assume that State government will be milder than the national government. Note that in the name of “states’ rights” the South enslaved millions of people and for many years denied the descendants of those people basic human rights. Both evils had to be addressed by the national government.


167 posted on 06/22/2015 5:09:14 PM PDT by maro (what did the President know and when did he know it?)
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To: Mollypitcher1
They got our back, I mean, we always get such sound advice from the Washington Post
168 posted on 06/22/2015 5:09:59 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: napscoordinator; CatherineofAragon
you made me chuckle too.

Nice to see the two of you getting along now. :)

169 posted on 06/22/2015 5:25:27 PM PDT by Dartman (Canadian, eh. And proud of it.)
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To: Mollypitcher1

No, if that flag is kept, the real Southern heritage is going to be buried. Just take it down as a statehouse flag and work on transforming the image.

The press has never liked it and now they have found the perfect way of destroying it. But I still think that was because a lot of supporters of the Cinfederate flag didn’t get out there and separate it from the race hating loonies who, like it or not, admit it or not, do consider it their symbol.


170 posted on 06/22/2015 5:34:18 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Well I just hope all those who keeps saying “get over it you lost” remember that when the libs ban the U.S. flag and smirk at them saying “get over it you lost”.


171 posted on 06/22/2015 5:43:05 PM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: livius

And Who is NEXT? Mississippi, I’ll bet!


172 posted on 06/22/2015 5:44:32 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: conservaKate

Don’t call yourself a conservative. You are anything but!


173 posted on 06/22/2015 5:47:45 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: conservaKate

AND your head spins because you can’t process any thing more than one talking point at a time! There are MANY reasons for the War, but people like you get fixated on one, like a dog with a bone. A Pity what’s happened to education.


174 posted on 06/22/2015 5:49:51 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: DoodleDawg

I don’t hate the Constitution, it’s people like you who want to “adjust” its meaning according to today’s “fashion.”

I’ll wager I’ve been defending the USA longer than you’ve been born. You sound like one of the cookie cutter Barbie doll set! You certainly adhere to their “style.”


175 posted on 06/22/2015 5:53:48 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1

Please explain.


176 posted on 06/22/2015 5:54:13 PM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: Mollypitcher1

doh nevermind wrong person


177 posted on 06/22/2015 5:54:51 PM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: livius

Got news for ya. The real southern heritage HAS been lost!


178 posted on 06/22/2015 5:58:40 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1
I’ll wager I’ve been defending the USA longer than you’ve been born.

Hopefully better than you have been defending the Confederacy.

179 posted on 06/22/2015 6:05:01 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

You just confirmed it! Scuttle away, you liberal dawg!


180 posted on 06/22/2015 6:09:04 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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