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1 posted on 06/22/2015 7:46:00 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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Any reparations to the generations of farmers that were victims to this governmental theft?


2 posted on 06/22/2015 7:47:06 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: monkeyshine

It would be kind of interesting, though a huge waste of time,

to read Sotomayor’s dissent.


3 posted on 06/22/2015 7:48:36 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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The short story is that the USDA has been taking raisins from every grower in the country for the past 70 years. They do not pay for them. The USDA then gives or sells these raisins to schools, and to foreign governments. Any proceeds is kept by the USDA to promote raisins around the world. The USDA claims they have to do this to support the price of raisins.

Of course this was blatantly unconstitutional and that an appeals court actually thought it was OK for the government to go onto private farms, break into barns and haul off 25%-40% of the crops is scary.


4 posted on 06/22/2015 7:48:40 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine

Good decision, I wonder if the vote was close (5-4) or one sided (9-0)?


5 posted on 06/22/2015 7:48:44 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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This will have the effect of killing a lot of USDA “marketing orders” - the government does this in quite a few areas, cherries, almonds, avocados, grapes. Quite a few monopolistic entities have sprung up around this in cranberry and other consumer food products.


7 posted on 06/22/2015 7:51:16 AM PDT by PGR88
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Good.
I’ve always thought that the government taking raisins away from farmers was theft.
I mean, what else could it be?


9 posted on 06/22/2015 7:53:04 AM PDT by citizen (WalkeRubio RIGHT For You 2016)
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To: monkeyshine

Wow...some great news to start the week.


10 posted on 06/22/2015 7:53:29 AM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: monkeyshine

I wonder how long before SCOTUS renders decisions in favor of government confiscations?

If Hillary becomes POTUS she’ll have the power to “appoint” the next one or more SCOTUS judges...anyone she appoints, will be, like her, in favor of big government, not the people.

And, the GOPe will go along with her appointments.


13 posted on 06/22/2015 7:55:12 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida, Baby!!)
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To: monkeyshine

I find it amazing that this law has not been challenged until now. I can not understand how anyone ( other than a communist liberal) could think this is right.


15 posted on 06/22/2015 7:56:09 AM PDT by martinidon
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To: monkeyshine; Lurking Libertarian; Perdogg; JDW11235; Clairity; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; ...

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

29 posted on 06/22/2015 8:22:54 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: monkeyshine

Good! Maybe this can be a precedent for other “takings” that the government carries out all the time!


34 posted on 06/22/2015 8:30:30 AM PDT by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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To: monkeyshine

Actually, taking it away and using my money to pay for it is wrong, too.


35 posted on 06/22/2015 8:37:35 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Excellent. Pretty much a repudiation of Wickard v Filburn.


41 posted on 06/22/2015 8:56:35 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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Under FDR, the government (w/ SCOTUS approval) stole a man’s wheat under the pretext that he was grinding his own grain into flour for his own use, thus affecting interstate commerce in flour. Can anyone with a real knowledge of the history of the raisin board tell me if that was an outgrowth of the wheat/flour policy? Or was it derived from the same bastardized thinking that currently pays farmers to not grow certain crops and not produce too much milk, because the government wants to control prices rather than let the free market decide?


43 posted on 06/22/2015 8:58:35 AM PDT by Pecos (What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.)
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Background:

Agricultural Adjustment Act of 1933

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_Adjustment_Act_of_1933

Agricultural Marketing Agreement Act of 1937

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_Marketing_Agreement_Act_of_1937

National Raisin Reserve of 1949

In 1949, Marketing Order 989 was passed which created the reserve and the Raisin Administrative Committee, which is responsible for running the reserve.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Raisin_Reserve

In addition to the National Raisin Reserve, during the New Deal other reserves existed for almonds, walnuts, tart cherries and other products. Enacted during the Great Depression, the New Deal reserves were a result of the government’s attempt to keep prices viable for farmers to grow the fruit and make a suitable profit. Most of these no longer exist.

Marketing orders and agreements

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marketing_orders_and_agreements

Marketing orders are binding on all handlers of the commodity within the geographic area of regulation once it is approved by a required number of producers (usually two-thirds). An order may limit the quantity of goods marketed, or establish the grade, size, maturity, quality, or prices of the goods. The Agricultural Marketing Service of the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) uses marketing orders to regulate the sale of dairy products and fruits and vegetables. An order can be terminated when a majority of all producers favor its termination or when the USDA determines that the order no longer serves its intended purpose. Marketing agreements may contain more diversified provisions, but are enforceable only against those handlers who enter into the agreement.


46 posted on 06/22/2015 9:08:44 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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Raisin farmers? Must be like those spaghetti farmers.

48 posted on 06/22/2015 9:11:54 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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SCOTUS isn't being very creative. They could have recast the "taking" as a production tax, payable in raisins.

Wickard v. Filburn is still good law, and in that case a payment to the government for production in excess of allotment was upheld.

49 posted on 06/22/2015 9:20:00 AM PDT by Cboldt
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I read through the transcript of the oral arguments when this was heard. The opinion ought to be really interesting.


50 posted on 06/22/2015 9:20:44 AM PDT by zeugma (The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun)
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You will find a PDF of the decision itself here. LII will have the HTML version out later today I'm sure.
51 posted on 06/22/2015 9:23:29 AM PDT by zeugma (The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun)
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Now that it is determined to be unconstitutional, is it too much to ask to defund the Dept of Raisins or whatever this foolish government bureaucracy is called?


54 posted on 06/22/2015 9:30:20 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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