Posted on 06/21/2015 6:07:40 PM PDT by PROCON
Edited on 06/21/2015 6:29:18 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Protesters in South Carolina have begun burning Confederate flags and defacing monuments as the debate as to whether or not the flag should fly over the state's capital intensifies in the wake of Wednesday's brutal massacre that saw nine people murdered because they were black.
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While in South Africa she was a leader in student protests to bring down the white run government. She came to this country claiming political persecution.
I wonder if she ever thinks about the damage she did to her home country and the damage she did to her new home here in this country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbFty9nZUac
at 23:10 the author discusses the Corwin amendment. :Lincoln would have made slavery permanent.
I’ve seen photos of blacks wearing Confederate uniforms.
Maybe they were promised their freedom if they fought the Yankees.
Also, a captured Confederate soldier in Virginia was asked by a Union officer why he was fighting. The Confederate soldier said, “Because you’re HERE!”
You’re doing a great job of defending slavery. Nice work!
Then there’s the 1863 draft riots in New York City, where black orphanages were burned and blacks were lynched. Many lives were lost. It was an ugly situation.
Why aren’t these fools taking it to Washington D.C. where they think someone gives a damn instead of running around vandalizing property and instigating riots in their hometowns. They are their own worst enemy, being lead like sheep down the path to failure and doom by the liberal democratic elites in our media and government. MLK is spinning in his grave.
After all this ruckus has died down the Confederate battle flag will still fly somewhere. maybe only in History and in the minds of a few who know the whole story.
I believe sympathy shown for “black justice” will remain unchanged or even worsened by their ever increasing violent actions and re-actions to the outcomes of these incidents. And if the black community continues to demonstrate blame, hatred, and disrespect for other American’s heritage and history, maybe a lot fewer people will give a damn or sympathize with their cause. In the meantime, they’re losing sight of their cause, disregarding the facts, and digging the hole deeper while enjoying it more with each incident.
Those trying to insight a Civil War will see the pushback they desire in due time as the opposition decides. When you see burning crosses in the hoods and the Confederate battle flag and others flying in civil disobedience from the Interstate overpasses and bridges, you will know the war is about to begin. When you smell the smoke, see the flames, and see the dead bodies, you will know it has happened.
America doesn’t want that. Hopefully both sides will wake up and see other alternatives to violence and vandalizing.
Re: post 8, I’m sure thats what a lot of people want.
And I doubt these are locals doing this. The local community has really pulled together. Including telling the race hustlers who have parachuted in (like they did in Fergusson and Baltimore) to go pound sand.
So the agitators, being denied the kind of protests they are adept at riling up into a rioteous mob, is going proactive.
If black lives matter how come it’s not spelled right?
“The understanding of my family has always been that my great-grandfather felt Lincoln abused his power and that was the real reason for the start of the war and Lincoln was responsible for what happened thereafter.”
Your great-grandfather deluded himself and deceived his family. Certain factions of the British Government and the Royal family spent decades of effort in various attempts to subvert the U.S. Government in the wake of the 1783 Treaty of Paris, foment civil wars designed to disunite the United States, and make the U.S. territories vulnerable to eventual reacquisition or place them under the protection and control of the British Empire. The motivation was to seek power and/or money from such efforts. In particular, these British factions sought to secure control of U.S. cotton production for the benefit of the Imperial British textile industries. Doing so required these British interests to control the international slave trade and maintain slavery in the United States used for the production of the cotton being used in the British textile mills. This is one of the major reasons why the British Government turned a blind eye of deniability when it came time for British Royal Navy officers, British built warships or commerce raiders, British Army officers, and British commercial interests to serve with the Confederate navy, Army, blockade runners, and commerce before and during the American Civil War. Up until sometime in the recent late 20th Century the British Royal Family was reputed to control a major interest of the best cotton plantations of the United States through a variety of intermediary companies they controlled. When other foreign governments in South Korea and elsewhere attempted to buy controlling interests in these U.S. cotton plantations for their own textile industries, they discovered the properties were not for sale because the British Royal family’s intermediaries still controlled these properties and their cotton production.
These same British and American factions finally succeeded in fomenting the civil war in the United States long before Lincoln became a candidate for the Office of the President of the United States. They were behind the financing and promotion of the Missouri Ruffians in the Kansas Wars of the 1850s, as well as a number of earlier filibuster expeditions in North America, Central America, and South America.
When Lincoln became a candidate for President of the United States in 1860, the American and British secessionists were already actively engaged in various insurgencies on behalf of secession. These same American and British secessionists succeeded in rigging the elections in the Southern states to deny the Lincoln and the Republicans the right to appear on the voting ballots in many of the Southern states. When Lincoln won the presidential election despite being denied the right for Southerners to vote for him, the secessionists engaged in a major conspiracy to murder and assassinate the new President-Elect while he was enroute to the inauguration in Washington, D.C. So, the secessionists were waging an insurrection and war before Lincoln was a candidate, before Lincoln was elected, before Lincoln was inaugurated, and before Lincoln was compelled by their lethal insurrection in Kansas, Missouri, Texas, Arkansas, South Carolina, and elsewhere to execute the Constitutional duty to suppress insurrections and restore “Domestic Tranquility.”
What it comes down to is that it made no material difference what Lincoln did or did not do, whether or not someone other than Lincoln had been elected as president, because the domestic and foreign insurrectionists were determined to foment and instigate a war of secession no matter what anyone else wanted or did. The fact that Ferdinand Maximilian Joseph or Emperor Maximilian I of Mexico was installed as emperor in 1864 while the United States was embroiled in its own civil war was no mere coincidence. It was simply another facet of the European efforts to gain political and/or economic control of the North American, Central American, and South American territories by subverting the governments in those regions, especially the United States.
Bottomline, Lincoln did not start the Civil War, because the Civil War was started long before Lincoln was a presidential candidate and was started by the same people who later attempted to assassinate Lincoln even before he could be inaugurated as President of the United States.
I'm not aware of any U.S. state putting ISIS flags on the state capitol grounds and claiming its a symbol of "middle east heritage" that has been "misused" by Islamic extremists.
And Jefferson Davis beat him to the punch.
Because the well-trained Democrat Party activist who did it wanted you to think that he was under-educated.
A bit of historical irony. The very day that the confederate flag came down over Columbia, and the same day Columbia was burned to the ground by Union soldiers, who slashed the fire hoses of the fire brigades, 20 black women were raped by Union soldiers and one black woman was murdered. No white women were raped, because citizens kept firearms and because of the southern code of honor. It is part of he historical record. They never taught this in high school.
No state governments are flying them.
Slavery ended in Massachusetts in 1783 when the state supreme court ruled it unconstitutional based on the 1780 Constitution.
And northerners have been happy ever since to re-write the history of what really happened.
I see that re-writing history certainly isn't only a Northern trait.
“In a more theologically literate day this would be identified even further as instigated from the pits of hell. The madman was only the instrument.”
Absolutely right.
Well said, HTRN.
If Dylann Roof would just claim to be black and an aspiring rapper we would never hear another word of this.
The Commonwealth never outlawed slavery until after the Civil War. There were court cases that made it difficult but slavery was illegal. Slave owners started calling enslaved blacks indentured servants but there was no provision to free them. There were even slaves in Lexington - the Cradle of Liberty.
Facts about slavery are a defense of slavery? How does that work? Pointing out that Massachusetts never passed any laws against slavery until after the Civil War, how is that a defense? You still want to believe Massachusetts was filled with Abolitionists?
Mentioning the thousands of blacks who owned slaves and sold their own children into slavery -that's a defense? Actually there was one reported case in which a black woman bought her husband and when he didn't behave she sold him back into slavery.
These are inconvenient facts that the liberals prefer you didn't know. Unlike liberals some Freepers would like to know the facts. Killing the messenger doesn't change the facts.
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