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Biker Thug or Innocent Victim of Waco Police? Watch & Decide!
Breitbart Texas ^ | June 16, 2015 | Lee Stranahan

Posted on 06/16/2015 11:25:51 AM PDT by don-o

The controversy over the Waco 170 continues as mre info comes out about the people who were arrested after the deadly May 15th shooting incident outside a biker event in Waco, Texas.

Now with this exclusive interview with one of the arrested, you can make up your own mind.

Did the Waco police overstep their authority and arrest innocent people? Or did they do the right thing and bust over 170 dangerous bikers?

It’s one thing to read about it. Watch our interview with Matt Clendennen and if you can figure out who’s telling the truth: the police or the bikers?

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: breitbarttexas; texas; waco; wacobikers
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To: Old Sarge

Yeah but, those Amish have a fairly indemic problem /S


61 posted on 06/16/2015 12:53:11 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: don-o

9 people are dead, let’s not clean these choir boys us and claim this was a church picnic.


62 posted on 06/16/2015 12:59:02 PM PDT by armydawg505
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To: thefactor

I think a good case could be made that members of the executive and judicial branch of the government of Texas violated the rights guaranteed him by the following amendments to the Constitution of the United States:

1st
2nd
4th
8th


63 posted on 06/16/2015 12:59:23 PM PDT by WayneS (Help! Save me from the people who want to save me!)
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To: DCBryan1

DAYS will = months.


64 posted on 06/16/2015 12:59:33 PM PDT by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44 (22 Yr, Navy Vet))
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To: WayneS

Well, we can always trust the police,right?

UHhhhh..


65 posted on 06/16/2015 1:00:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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To: armydawg505

Yes. Nine people are dead.

And I, for one, would like to know who killed them.


66 posted on 06/16/2015 1:00:47 PM PDT by WayneS (Help! Save me from the people who want to save me!)
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To: don-o
I'm not sure what you're talking about. When 170 people are arrested all at once in a small town and it's a murder scene then you're going to have nightmarish amounts of paperwork and backlogs and lawyers and courts. I'm failing to see where any of his rights were violated.

And you're the one who made that initial claim. So tell me what rights you think were violated. Don't tell me your opinion and then tell me to go research it myself. Haha.

67 posted on 06/16/2015 1:00:53 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: WayneS

“branches”


68 posted on 06/16/2015 1:01:32 PM PDT by WayneS (Help! Save me from the people who want to save me!)
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To: thefactor
As to your last point, you aren’t understanding me. All of these guys were wearing patches at the same time and place.

But there were many clubs represented there, many wearing patch that is wholly unconnected to anything nefarious - to include Biker Vets, and and Bikers for Jesus groups. Indiscriminately sweeping up anyone in gypsy leather is quite akin to my point.

If they had been picked up and let go again with some sort of immediacy, I probably wouldn't mind. But that ain't what this was.

69 posted on 06/16/2015 1:01:34 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: armydawg505
9 people are dead, let’s not clean these choir boys us and claim this was a church picnic.

Who killed those nine? Do you know?

70 posted on 06/16/2015 1:02:12 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: WayneS

Not if there was probable cause to arrest. Which there was, IMHO.


71 posted on 06/16/2015 1:02:15 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: WayneS
..AND we have a problem with the people who are not guilty, but who were swept up in the arrests,

I don't have a problem with that. In a general melee they are going to restore order first. continuing to be held on $1,000,000 bond after 3-4 weeks.

Yes, I do have a problem with this. Something about The Eighth Amendment... which you would think a prosecutor would know.

72 posted on 06/16/2015 1:02:20 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Let's call it what it is: Climate Immorality. Now say a Dozen Hail Marys and six Our Fathers.)
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To: thefactor

Small town?

Waco, Texas has a population of about 130,000 people. In my state that’s a decent sized city.

PS - Is it too much to ask to recommend you at least read the 8th amendment to the Constitution on your own or do you want me to post it for you?


73 posted on 06/16/2015 1:04:47 PM PDT by WayneS (Help! Save me from the people who want to save me!)
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To: thefactor
The suit claims that Clendennen’s 4th and 14th Amendment rights were violated by Waco’s alleged policy decision to indict and hold people with “fill in the name” criminal complaints and seize their property.

You are not up-to-speed with the facts in this case and again, did you not take an oath pledging to defend the U.S. Constitution?

74 posted on 06/16/2015 1:05:15 PM PDT by Prolixus (Why does Waco make me think of Benghazi?)
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To: thefactor

Not gonna do it. If you do your own research, you will discover that lawsuits have already defined the violations of rights. Many more to come.


75 posted on 06/16/2015 1:05:32 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: FredZarguna
..AND we have a problem with the people who are not guilty, but who were swept up in the arrests,

I don't have a problem with that either. Please do not take my comments out of context. The comma placement in my sentence, and my use of the word "but", make my meaning unambiguous.

76 posted on 06/16/2015 1:06:56 PM PDT by WayneS (Help! Save me from the people who want to save me!)
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To: thefactor

Even the 8th?


77 posted on 06/16/2015 1:08:03 PM PDT by WayneS (Help! Save me from the people who want to save me!)
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To: roamer_1
I wonder if you would shrug it off so easily if it was YOU cooling YOUR heels in the can for better than two weeks on an unreasonable bond.

I don't shrug the detention off at all. It's a violation of the Eighth Amendment.

But that is a separate question from the one: "in a violent melee, should everybody be arrested?" Probably so if there's a public safety issue. What is the compelling reason now to continue holding them?

Sorry, but thefactor's "paperwork" excuse won't fly. Frankly, it sounds like something the hard-nosed cop in a bad movie would say to excuse his own criminality.

78 posted on 06/16/2015 1:08:56 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Let's call it what it is: Climate Immorality. Now say a Dozen Hail Marys and six Our Fathers.)
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To: roamer_1
If they had been picked up and let go again with some sort of immediacy, I probably wouldn't mind. But that ain't what this was.

I agree.

79 posted on 06/16/2015 1:09:35 PM PDT by WayneS (Help! Save me from the people who want to save me!)
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To: Prolixus
I've taken a few oaths, and I have fulfilled them all. Call me crazy, but I'm inclined to give the police the benefit of the doubt, for now.

And if I had a nickel for every baseless, frivolous lawsuit filed by arrested persons, I'd be rich. Do I think this guy committed a crime that day? No. Do I think there was PC to arrest at the time? Yup.

80 posted on 06/16/2015 1:11:29 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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