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Biker Thug or Innocent Victim of Waco Police? Watch & Decide!
Breitbart Texas ^ | June 16, 2015 | Lee Stranahan

Posted on 06/16/2015 11:25:51 AM PDT by don-o

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To: MileHi

I see a lot of crazy things at the local Bike Weeks.

That was one of the gentler things.

>.<


261 posted on 06/16/2015 8:34:41 PM PDT by Salamander (Vested Subhuman)
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To: Salamander
That was one of the gentler things.

Prolly.

262 posted on 06/16/2015 8:36:41 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Salamander
Guys, not so much.

Unless you’re in San Fransicko.

"Now just hold on there, Pilgrim."

263 posted on 06/16/2015 8:43:27 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Let's call it what it is: Climate Immorality. Now say a Dozen Hail Marys and six Our Fathers.)
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To: MileHi

There was a guy in a Speedo at last year’s Gettysburg Bike Week.

He did not have a Speedo body but that did not deter him one bit.

The weirdest thing I saw was a BDSM ‘vendor’.

For a price, you could whip or be whipped.

I’ll be surprised if that is there, this year.

Bikers did not seem overly amused.


264 posted on 06/16/2015 9:39:33 PM PDT by Salamander (Vested Subhuman)
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To: thefactor

Truthfully, being around bikers with guns would be safer than having both bikers and cops with guns. I don’t recall any incidents where bikers took out a bunch of women and kids, but I recall a few times your heros have.

Seem like one happened right in the same town. At least they didn’t corral everyone into the restaurant and burn them all to death this time, though I’m sure you would be fine with that too.


265 posted on 06/16/2015 10:04:11 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (The last days of America will not resemble Rome, but Carthage.)
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To: thefactor

I’m thinking that the cops should arrest you. Just to be sure.


266 posted on 06/16/2015 10:10:08 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: FredZarguna
I believe we fundamentally agree. Sorry for any misunderstanding.

I would say the police presence in Sturgis, for instance, while somewhat onerous is a bit of a deterrent to general misbehaviour, even though that may once have been considered harmless fun.

Having police, sheriffs, BATF, SWAT including snipers, and whoever else present for what would ordinarily be a peaceful CoC meeting is somewhat suspicious, and frankly makes me wonder if there was an agent provocateur or two in the ranks somewhere as a CI or UC.

The whole situation reeks of a set-up, and the follow-up lethargy in processing, release of video (and no doubt there was plenty), wild-eyed weapons counts, and other pejorative statements only entrenches my opinion.

For the police there to convince me they have acted properly is an uphill battle at this point, especially considering the John Doe warrants and million dollar bonds.

Aside from filling the commercially operated jail (170 vacancies? really?), and the potential haul from auctioning over 100 expensive motorcycles, I have heard that the situation has created what Harley Financing considers disproportionate risk, which is cause to call for the note on the bike financed through them to either be paid in full or the bike repossessed. link

If that is the case, anyone who has no criminal record, who did not commit a crime (other than being there, which was likely not a crime in and of itself) who has a motorcycle financed through HD Financial is at risk of losing it, and some allegedly already have. Cui Bono? I don't know, nor do I know who they are related to, but those who did nothing but show up for a meeting of the CoC and got arrested are getting another level of screwing, whether they committed a crime or not.

267 posted on 06/16/2015 10:42:18 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: trisham
So ... let me get this right.

You think it's likely, let alone possible, for two thirds of dangerous bikers to have NO criminal record?

Yes? No?

268 posted on 06/16/2015 11:17:37 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Salamander
Obama delivered a speech in Boulder, Colorado in which he promised the creation and establishment of a “Civilian National Security Force.” He further promised it would be “just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded as the US Military.” For once, he did not lie.

That's worth a BUMP.

269 posted on 06/16/2015 11:22:20 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: dragnet2
It begs the question, if they had a damn good idea who caused the trouble why take all 170 people into custody and then charge them ALL with felonies? This is total bull sh*t.

That's a good point!

It is a total mystery as to what the real purpose of this thing was, but it was deliberate and I kinda figure Waco's local cops had a small part only.

270 posted on 06/16/2015 11:37:07 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: roamer_1
Agreed. The whole 'kill them all, let God sort them out' thing has never been a righteous method... and this sort of thing can lead to that method in a surprisingly short time... Hence my alertness and concern.

Amen.

271 posted on 06/16/2015 11:41:20 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: AMDG&BVMH

You know, it isn’t what I “can” and “can’t” believe. It’s where the truth and the evidence point.


272 posted on 06/16/2015 11:48:21 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: dragnet2

Good post.


273 posted on 06/17/2015 12:02:16 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: thefactor
So you’re saying that the cops should have given these hundreds of bikers the chance to kill each other before opening fire?

So you're saying he cops were just in opened fire first, Pre-Crime Prevention?

I have not seen any report on who shot who when?

If you do, pls provide a link.

274 posted on 06/17/2015 4:47:08 AM PDT by TexasCajun (Hillary: Ethically Sleazy & Politically Stupid)
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To: TexasCajun
I have not seen any report on who shot who when?

The Waco Chief said on Friday that HIS men were sitting in their vehicles when trouble started. They exited their vehicles and three of HIS men fired a total of 12 rounds.

We have no information on what Abbot's men or Obama's men were doing.

275 posted on 06/17/2015 5:13:49 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: trisham
Hello --- answer please, yes or no:

You think it's likely, let alone possible, for two thirds of dangerous bikers to have NO criminal record?

Yes? No?

276 posted on 06/17/2015 7:12:53 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: roamer_1
Don't you think it odd that my position aligns pretty well with the actual bikers on this thread - Those who actually live in that world - And yours does not?

This isn't about me...the notion that the Confederation of Clubs regional meeting in Waco was open to the general public is at odds with what several of the regional CoC members, the people who actually organized the meeting, have said.

Absent evidence to the contrary, why shouldn't statements made by people who organized the meeting be taken at face value? And if they aren't being truthful why not call them out on it?

277 posted on 06/17/2015 7:40:59 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Salamander

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No kidding!


278 posted on 06/17/2015 7:42:22 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: thefactor

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“The Law” created this out of whole cloth.

Absolutely nothing out of order was happening until LEO bullets began flying. That created confusion, and caused two biker individuals to react briefly. Just two.

That is the reality. You may prefer something different, but I’ll stick with what the known facts say.

If your home page is the real you, you need to have your posts to this subject removed.
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279 posted on 06/17/2015 7:48:41 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: bgill

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Thanks for posting that.

It is significant.
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280 posted on 06/17/2015 7:52:56 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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