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Biker Thug or Innocent Victim of Waco Police? Watch & Decide!
Breitbart Texas ^ | June 16, 2015 | Lee Stranahan

Posted on 06/16/2015 11:25:51 AM PDT by don-o

The controversy over the Waco 170 continues as mre info comes out about the people who were arrested after the deadly May 15th shooting incident outside a biker event in Waco, Texas.

Now with this exclusive interview with one of the arrested, you can make up your own mind.

Did the Waco police overstep their authority and arrest innocent people? Or did they do the right thing and bust over 170 dangerous bikers?

It’s one thing to read about it. Watch our interview with Matt Clendennen and if you can figure out who’s telling the truth: the police or the bikers?

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: breitbarttexas; texas; waco; wacobikers
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To: AMDG&BVMH
I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15

"He wasn't wearing any vests, no colors, no bike, was in a vehicle and was in the wrong place, wrong time."

161 posted on 06/16/2015 3:05:09 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Prolixus
there was no justification for $1,000,000 bails.

Says you...lets see what the courts say.

162 posted on 06/16/2015 3:07:06 PM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: don-o

Too bad he wasn’t a card carrying member of the ACLU like you huh don-o?


163 posted on 06/16/2015 3:08:20 PM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: MrEdd

It’s impossible to even bag the hundreds of pieces of evidence and examine the bodies in that amount of time. You have a murder scene with nine bodies and almost 200 arrested. You know how long it takes to process just one arrest? This was a clusterf—k from the get-go and should be treated as a special case. And just because some guys pleads his innocence by saying, “I’m an accountant who only rides on the weekends and they let me wear some cool patches!” doesn’t mean they are going to just let him go.


164 posted on 06/16/2015 3:09:04 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: mac_truck

Welcome to my Ignore List. Idiot.


165 posted on 06/16/2015 3:09:24 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: mac_truck
It is my understanding that this CoC meeting was for members only or by special invitation

You've been listening to Sgt. Spreader of Silly Stories Swanton too much that the Cosacks weren't invited. All you have to do is search for motorcycle events and you'll find it scheduled months in advance and open to any and all. These are not closed meetings. Wow, here's one URL that actually states "PUBLISH_PUBLIC".

http://localendar.com/elsie?JSP=PublishedCalendar&mode=PUBLISH_PUBLIC&search_type=M0&start_date=05/01/15&calendar_id=174935

166 posted on 06/16/2015 3:15:57 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: mac_truck
It is my understanding that this CoC meeting was for members only or by special invitation...so it would be more like a union meeting than a TEA party in that regard.

You're understanding has been flawed from the get-go. CoC's (CoCI's) are open, neutral ground, and that's why it was advertised.

167 posted on 06/16/2015 3:16:29 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: thefactor
Wow. You are spoon-fed pre-processed news just like it was baby food. You are so fabulously, ridiculously obtuse, thinking in terms of "wanna-be bad boys" -- factor, I don't know what attic or basement you live in, but I live in the real world where even the wanna-be "bad boys" have criminal records; as for the real bad boys in biking, they ALL have criminal records that are distinguished and include juvenile crime.

THEREFORE, lack of a criminal record, as with TWO THIRDS of the folks who were arrested, proves to ME, a person who actually lives, breathes, lives and loves real people in the real world, that two third of them were just ... bikers, not even wanna-be bad boys. It's pretty obvious.

I am as naïve as a baby when it comes to NYC -- you are from there or live there, correct? -- and I could easily be duped regarding anything to do with NYC culture; I know it. YOU are as naïve when it comes to Harley riders -- the difference is you don't know it.

168 posted on 06/16/2015 3:16:36 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: mac_truck

Another piece of the Matt Clendennen news conference that I just found:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYfgUD-rXus


169 posted on 06/16/2015 3:16:44 PM PDT by JJ_Folderol (Diagonally parked in a parallel universe...)
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To: Salamander

Visions of the Village People.


170 posted on 06/16/2015 3:18:12 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Finny

Maybe you should try again, with a reasoned and thoughtful argument.


171 posted on 06/16/2015 3:20:17 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: bgill

;D


172 posted on 06/16/2015 3:20:31 PM PDT by Salamander (Vested Subhuman)
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To: thefactor; don-o
Yeah, I was asserting that there's a difference between a family trying to eat breakfast and bikers

You're assertion, as usual, is uninformed. Likely as not, 99% (if you know anything, that number is significant) of the time, there is no difference at all.

173 posted on 06/16/2015 3:22:56 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Finny
In a weird way you kinda proved my point. I'm saying there was PC to arrest all bikers at the scene. You saying that most of them have criminal records just adds value to my claim.

And just because someone doesn't have a criminal history doesn't immediately exclude them from prosecution. That's where facts and evidence come in.

I mean, come on. There were NINE dead bodies in a parking lot of a restaurant! And if you were part of a gang that contributed to those deaths, even if it ends up that you weren't directly involved in violence, you need to be investigated. And bail needs to be set in a way to discourage you jumping it. These guys are known to be transient. Many of them, anyway.

174 posted on 06/16/2015 3:23:17 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: roamer_1

So you’re asserting that the original melee could very well have been started by a family who was simply eating breakfast? Because, as you stated, 99% of the time there’s no difference at all. Or is this just the 1%?


175 posted on 06/16/2015 3:25:19 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor
Keep braying your ignorance. Why, those same independents and groups show up en masse at Daytona and Sturgis and hundreds (if not thousands) of other meetings and functions throughout any given year with less violence than towns of a similar size.

Apparently, you don't know what you are talking about, and for that matter we still don't know who killed who.

Motorcycle clubs have a reputation for being self-policing, and the baddest of the bad will handle their problems out of the public eye, whether those problems are internal or between different groups.

That was decidedly NOT the purpose of a CoC&I meeting, which is to discuss legislative issues which affect everyone who rides, and to help coordinate run schedules to allow clubs to have events which are not competing for the same crowds on any given weekend.

This has been posted more than once by people who are knowledgeable about the subject, but apparently you haven't been reading along.

Look up the CoC&I and find out for yourself.

176 posted on 06/16/2015 3:27:30 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: thefactor
But all you need is for ONE of these meetings to go bad.

The same could be said for tent revivals.

You’re tempting fate by bringing such a large number of these guys together.

Yep, they are all sinners at tent revivals, too.

177 posted on 06/16/2015 3:29:34 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Salamander; Smokin' Joe
I am merely a vested subhuman wearing assed chaps, at the moment. [but you may know them simply as ‘leather pants’]

Hey. Who told you that you could wear pants? Put them assless chaps on, git in the kitchen, and cook us up some meth, subhuman!

; )

@Smokin' Joe

Dude, you've got to read this thread. Really.

178 posted on 06/16/2015 3:29:52 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

All that may be true, but this meeting went bad in a hurry. Just like anything else, the few ruin it for the many. But places like Sturgis and other large rallies are different, it would seem. You have thousands of bikers, not a concentrated gathering of hardcore guys who don’t like each other.


179 posted on 06/16/2015 3:32:19 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Smokin' Joe

If the tent revival brought the Hatfield’s and McCoy’s together under one roof, then yeah. You’re tempting fate.


180 posted on 06/16/2015 3:33:31 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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