Ted Cruz wants to increase H-1B visas from 65,000 to 325,000 annually

The reason American leaders are pleading for more STEM workers is not because of costs, it’s because there is not enough that are truly qualified, do or die, get it done, keep America in the lead.

Then just get it done, do or die, with Americans instead of H1Bs.

That seems straightforward enough for anyone to understand, maybe even Cruz bots.

I'm not saying Americans are perfect but I think most will rise to the occasion when given a chance. Why not give an American a chance, instead of a Bangalore sweatshop?

Your eloquence and family anecdotes aside, Bangalore sweatshops can not fly people to the moon and never could.

The reducto ad absurdum is to open all borders. After all someone somewhere will never find Mr. Perfect-Job-Applicant. Is that what you would like?

What would you tell the displaced Disney workers if they were standing in front of you right now? To pay attention to you because your relative was a general and you once worked for NASA or something and that their jobs are now being worked by Bangalore sweatshops dudes because they did not get the job done right?

We are in an economic war now. You don't beat Nazis by giving Nazis H1Bs and giving them jobs to "get the job done." There are more important things than getting the job done. People should not have to spend their entire careers looking over their shoulders every day of their careers and waiting for the axe to fall in the form of Bangalore sweatshop dudes on H1Bs, no matter how well they have done their jobs. That is reality. Your concepts are simply old news from a different era. You are simply out of touch with reality. But I'm sure you've heard that before.

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never said I would not vote for him as the republican nomination. I just don’t want him as our nomination. I would vote for him over just about any democrat. I don’t see why you call me a useful idiot because I don’t like the realities of the foreign worker program. I am smart enough to know we need access to foreign workers and smart enough that as the program is right now being administered that most of the workers hired by the companies are hired because it gives them control over that worker.

> “Then just get it done, do or die, with Americans instead of H1Bs.”

If it was that simple, this discussion would not exist.

Reality is that all of the research, testing, development, manufacturing, deployment of new technology requires planning and task execution on the part of the existing scientific class in America who in turn require more scientists at a requisite knowledge and experience level. Like a factory with machines but few operators, the American science community can only focus on a few fronts and need to constantly prioritize all things on a an investigation and production list.

Further, scientific innovation is most often a psychological thing involving subconscious processing for problem resolution. True talent is genetic in terms of problem solving and scientific progress is often spurred by personal chemistry among scientific teams. Whether those genes, training and experience are American born or foreign born, the cross-fertilization aspect of scientific development demands that the best minds be devoted to the subject matter.

Thus, the big leagues of science demand not only a nationwide search but a global search as well to find the right stuff.

You’re smart enough to realize what’s going on but you’re not informed enough to realize that Ted Cruz is not part of the problem, he is part of the solution.

Reality is all those displaced workers who had families and are now faced with long term unemployment or worse. You don’t care a whit about what is important: the quality of life of Americans.

You are essentially apologizing for cheap Bangalore sweatshop dudes and the cutthroats that hire them.

That is reality.

What is it that you like so much about cheap Bangalore sweatshop dudes over actual American workers and actual American families.

You are saying that actual American workers are not as good as cheap Bangalore sweatshop dudes. That may be your reality. It is not my reality.

Americans first. American workers first.

Say it. Repeat it. Live it.

Or, maybe hop on a jet with a one way ticket to Bangalore if you love Bangalore and its sweatshop dudes so much.

And Cruz too.

Scott Walker is looking better and better. Maybe Ted Cruz has some kind of libertarian bug infecting his brain. As in libertarian, free market theories supporting plutocratic pukes bringing in 325,000 Indian (and other) H1-B programmers each year

Don’t forget that Obama has just issued an executive order extending work permits to spouses of H-1B visa holders.

That makes it even easier for the H-1Bs to work at a lower wage than Americans and further increases the numbers of foreigners seeking jobs here.

"IT = HIGH LEVEL MONKEY WORK NOT WORTH THE MONEY"

Please cover yourself up -- your naiveté is showing.

"Medical industry = high level monkey work...". (The receptionist at my doctor's office is an idiot). See how that works?

Why don't you enlighten us to what line of work you're in?

So long, Ted.

Glad I didn’t get too attached.

H-1B ping. Let me know if you're not on the list and want to be added (or are and want to be removed).

IT = HIGH LEVEL MONKEY WORK NOT WORTH THE MONEY.

Let me explain some things to you, cockroach:

I work in chip design in the Silicon Valley. While my particular sector isn't "IT", it is flooded with H1-B visas.

What we've seen the past 15 years is that employers bring the foreigners here by the boatloads, and work them to death (which they can, because they hold the reigns on them getting Green Cards).

But of course, this abuse extends beyond just the H1-Bs. Because of both there being so many H1-Bs, and the fact that the labor market has (on purpose) been flooded with foreigners, the abusive work conditions become the norm for all chip designers in the US.

Don't like being abused? In the old days (pre-2001 or so) you could tell your boss to "take your job and shove it", and go the next month to a colossal job fair where there would be 10 or so companies eager to talk to you.

Do that now? Or just lose your job due to outsourcing / downsizing / department or division or project shut-down?

Well, if you're over 35, you most likely won't be working in a full-time job with benefits ever again. You'll be pushed into the realm of contracting-only. After all, why should companies make a commitment to you, when an endless buffet of overseas talent to abuse is delivered to them hot and fresh courtesy of sell-outs like our US Government officials? (Cruz and Obama and all in-between.) That contract job? It will last about 5 months until the job is done or the company hiccups and as a first line of cost-cutting dumps the contractors. Then you get to take another 3-7 months to find another job. WITHOUT UNEMPLOYMENT, BECAUSE YOU WERE A CONTRACTOR.

This is no theoretical, this has been my life the past 8 years. You can't ever feel stable. You can't ever even dream of owning a home, let alone in the $ilicon Valley, because of the financial instability. (That, and you're up against people who move their whole family over, and use overseas money to buy the homes.)

You want to call what I do "monkey work", cockroach? THEN KISS MY ASS!

Ted is not going to allow H1B to be used to replace IT workers with cheap labor. That’s Obama you’re talking about.

Just like GW Bush protected us! HAHAHAHAHA!!!

> “Let me explain some things to you, cockroach:”

Sounds like you need to get out and enjoy life a little.

> “I work in chip design in the Silicon Valley. While my particular sector isn’t “IT”, it is flooded with H1-B visas.”

Yep, that’s true. Lots of H1B abuses as in ABUSES. No argument here.

> “What we’ve seen the past 15 years is that employers bring the foreigners here by the boatloads, and work them to death (which they can, because they hold the reigns on them getting Green Cards).”

Yep again, that’s true again. Lots of H1B abuses as in ABUSES. No argument here (Yawn).

> “But of course, this abuse extends beyond just the H1-Bs. Because of both there being so many H1-Bs, and the fact that the labor market has (on purpose) been flooded with foreigners, the abusive work conditions become the norm for all chip designers in the US.”

Yep again times 3, that’s true again times 3. Lots of H1B abuses as in ABUSES. No argument here (Snore).

> “Don’t like being abused? In the old days (pre-2001 or so) you could tell your boss to “take your job and shove it”, and go the next month to a colossal job fair where there would be 10 or so companies eager to talk to you.”

Yeppers, those was da deys .... (giggle)

> “Do that now? Or just lose your job due to outsourcing / downsizing / department or division or project shut-down?”

I know I know, Life’s a Bitch and then you Die.

> “Well, if you’re over 35, you most likely won’t be working in a full-time job with benefits ever again. You’ll be pushed into the realm of contracting-only. After all, why should companies make a commitment to you, when an endless buffet of overseas talent to abuse is delivered to them hot and fresh courtesy of sell-outs like our US Government officials? (Cruz and Obama and all in-between.) That contract job? It will last about 5 months until the job is done or the company hiccups and as a first line of cost-cutting dumps the contractors. Then you get to take another 3-7 months to find another job. WITHOUT UNEMPLOYMENT, BECAUSE YOU WERE A CONTRACTOR.

Yeppers again, Life’s a Double Bitch and then you Die and it Hurts (snore).

> “This is no theoretical, this has been my life the past 8 years. You can’t ever feel stable. You can’t ever even dream of owning a home, let alone in the $ilicon Valley, because of the financial instability. (That, and you’re up against people who move their whole family over, and use overseas money to buy the homes.)”

Yeppers times 3, Life’s a triple whammy Bitch from Hell, and then you Die buried alive!

> “You want to call what I do “monkey work”, cockroach? THEN KISS MY ASS!”

Do you have a cute ass? Or are you male? Because if you’re male, I can possibly get you introduced to the top queer in Silicon Valley. You know the one selling all the watches these days?

I am sure Ted is relieved that I don’t speak for him. But he has expressed his concerns over the present H1B abuses. He wants to take the H1B program back to what it was originally intended for which is to attract and retain top scientific and technical talent.

In my view Ted has no intention of flooding America with more IT workers from India. Rather he wants to attract or retain the talent that keeps America at the top. That’s not done by granting Disney a whole cache of approved H1Bs so that they can layoff their American born techies. But no one can prevent Disney from closing their IT shop down and offshoring it.

Sorry for your particular circumstances but I am very familiar with the tech field as in VERY FAMILIAR, more familiar than I care to be. The successful programmers, coders and IT specialists are those that are quick to adapt and fill market gaps. It’s very competitive even without all the H1B abuses. I doubt your life would have been a piece of cake even if no H1Bs had been issued to your field of expertise. I see the competition now in the new internet marketing, SEO, SEM and ecommerce. The competition is fiercer than fierce; it’s brutal. And there are no H1B abuses in that field yet because it demands a mastery of language and analytics as well as always a fine ability to communicate and anticipate corporate needs. I get stressed just thinking about it.

Anyways, good luck to you.

I know I know. But then GW was, I hate to say it, on the opposite end of the intelligence spectrum from where Cruz is.

But GW was preferable to Gore and Kerry. Gawd, has America suffered some of the worst characters possible in the presidency in the last 20+ years.

And now we have her Hillarity on deck. I need to purchase a diaper from Amazon.

Thank the Good Lord we have Ted Cruz appearing at just the right time in American history. We are due for a break. Thank you Jesus and I mean that sincerely.

I'd like to bring to the attention of everyone you insulted on this thread just how low a typical traitorous Free-Traitor will go.

Hey all, look at how Mr. "Hostage" here deals with someone who has gone first-hand through a decade of H1-B visa abuse! Now aren't you glad that these are the exact people who say that they will fix the system (while exploding it five-fold)?

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