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Black Students Are More Likely To Get ‘Ineffective’ Teachers: Report
New York Post ^ | June 13, 2015 | Yoav Gonen

Posted on 06/13/2015 7:17:33 AM PDT by lbryce

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To: Zhang Fei

The average IQ of inner city blacks is 76. That’s the average. Half of them are below 76. More than 1/3 of them have death penalty immunity because of their retardation. The combination of low IQ and disruptive classroom behavior would make any teacher ineffective.


41 posted on 06/13/2015 8:09:05 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Principled

Rite on rite on............ Who do you think you are, the principle?

snort))))))))))


42 posted on 06/13/2015 8:10:31 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Stand W

That was my first thought.


43 posted on 06/13/2015 8:11:00 AM PDT by odawg
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To: lbryce

Weren’t Blacks whining that their children couldn’t learn from White teachers because they couldn’t relate to them? Now they have Black teachers. They should be doing great, because everyone knows that skin color trumps brains.


44 posted on 06/13/2015 8:13:53 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Sadly the degrees most teachers have are nothing most of us could earn a living in the private sector with.


45 posted on 06/13/2015 8:15:24 AM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: txrefugee
So, if a teacher is lecturing to a classroom full of rotten tree stumps, if the stumps don't do well on their tests, is it because the teacher is deficient, or is it because the classroom was full of tree stumps...?

What kind of mind can even figure stuff like this out? Let's just "acks" a black person...

46 posted on 06/13/2015 8:20:02 AM PDT by Gargantua ("...fee tine a maadyy..." ;^)
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To: lacrew
they wouldn't give a white applicant the time of day and instead opted for diversity

Yep. Back when I was first hired (at an urban school district), hiring was done by merit. You got a score based on your college grades and student teacher evaluation. And the top scores got hired, period. By the way, that method was fully supported by the union leadership of the time.

Today there are still scores, but they are "adjusted" every which way to favor the candidates the district wants. And today's union leadership is just fine with that, because they are now liberal political toads, and not true labor leaders like in the past.

Still, I would encourage the young lady you talked about to continue looking for a good public school job! But nothing urban, please.

Private schools are nice (I taught in one for three years). But the benefits are light, and there is usually no pension. Plus you could be let go for no reason.

If you're teaching math and some big donor has a nephew who just got his math degree...poof...you're out of a job next year. That didn't happen to me, but I sure saw it happen to others.

47 posted on 06/13/2015 8:29:15 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: lacrew
I'm a former high school math teacher. At least as far as math teachers go, I can speak with some authority.

Qualified math teachers, especially any who have proven effectiveness, can get a job anywhere in the country. The shortage is very large.

So, if you've got schools fighting for you... and there is little/no financial incentive to choose one over the other, then wouldn't you choose a safe, suburban or rural school rather than an inner city cesspool?

I loved my kids, I loved my school, and I only left to take a job I couldn't refuse. That said, it really pissed me off to be paid less than any of the half-dozen or so football/baseball/basketball coaches who were jokes in the classroom. None of those guys ever taught rigorous core academics.

48 posted on 06/13/2015 8:30:11 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: Zhang Fei
The other reason is black students are dangerous. Not all of them, but it only takes one.

As I mentioned earlier, I am a veteran urban public school teacher. I very rarely had a violent black student in my honors classes. Those kids were great! Even though most came from poor backgrounds, they worked hard and pushed themselves to succeed.

But the general classes were something else. Perhaps 20% of the black students were violent at least once a month. Most of the violence was directed towards other students, but teachers certainly weren't immune to it.

However, most the truly dangerous psycho students I encountered were white. Interesting, eh?

49 posted on 06/13/2015 8:37:22 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: lbryce

“what difference does it make” when your native tongue is Ebonics?


50 posted on 06/13/2015 8:37:29 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Leaning Right

—But it’s also possible (and more likely in my experience) that predominately black classes cause a good teacher to become ineffective.-—


51 posted on 06/13/2015 8:37:45 AM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: lbryce

Might that be because blacks are more likely to be “ineffective” students? In fact, might it not be that the teachers are fully capable, but that even the best of them cannot teach yout’s who are unwilling to learn?


52 posted on 06/13/2015 8:38:49 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Leaning Right

This happened several years ago. The young lady in question has taught in various places since then (none being an urban district though).

My grandmother taught at a private school for half a century...and my father is five years short of hitting that mark himself, also at a private school. I forget pensions even exist....because you are right and they had/have no pension. But lots of people (like myself) have no pension these days. Frankly, debacles like Detroit lead me to believe pensions may not pay out as promised....and I wouldn’t use that as a differentiating factor in deciding public vs private. I do remember my dad worked (and still works) on one year contracts - a little disconcerting, but really not unlike much of the private sector, where you could go at any time.


53 posted on 06/13/2015 8:45:02 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: lbryce

And all this time I thought they exhibited violent anti-social behavior because of bad cops, now I find out it’s due to bad teachers. Go figure.


54 posted on 06/13/2015 8:50:18 AM PDT by umgud (When under attack, victims want 2 things; God & a gun)
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To: lacrew

Confucius say students who don’t want to learn, blame teacher. Well maybe he didn’t say that, maybe it was, ‘you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.’ Funny how better my teacher got when I read the text.


55 posted on 06/13/2015 8:51:20 AM PDT by ex-snook (To conquer use Jesus, not bombs.)
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To: IronJack

That is my belief.


56 posted on 06/13/2015 8:55:30 AM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: ex-snook

Yes. “A person who wants to do something-finds a way. A person who does not-finds an excuse.”


57 posted on 06/13/2015 8:58:28 AM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: lbryce
My guess is that they see that it is ineffective to waste effective teachers on Culturally Ineffective students.
58 posted on 06/13/2015 8:59:53 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Gargantua

“So, if a teacher is lecturing to a classroom full of rotten tree stumps, if the stumps don’t do well on their tests, is it because the teacher is deficient, or is it because the classroom was full of tree stumps...?”

The fault is public schools because private schools can make rotten tree stumps learn by magic.


59 posted on 06/13/2015 9:00:15 AM PDT by Ultima
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To: Leaning Right

That sounds spot on, in multiple ways.


60 posted on 06/13/2015 9:01:17 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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