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To: mountn man; Black Agnes

You seem to conveniently miss the point that he did receive counseling BEFORE he was 18.
The study quoted NEVER said ANYTHING about them having licensed or unlicensed therapy.

What it did say was this:
Similarly, clinical data point to variability in risk for future sex offending as an adult. Multiple short- and long-term clinical followup studies of juvenile sex offenders consistently demonstrate that a large majority (about 85–95 percent) of sex-offending youth have no arrests or reports for future sex crimes. When previously sex-offending youth do have future arrests, they are far more likely to be for nonsexual crimes such as property or drug offenses than for sex crimes (Alexander, 1999; Caldwell, 2002; Reitzel and Carbonell, 2007)

Nothing about counseling.

I knew exactly what the stats said for your information. There are many studies out there. Not all of them so ‘hopeful’

You know sh.. You’re just grasping.

I just looked at just the first 10 reports. NONE of them hint at what you claim as being “not all as hopeful”

You claim that I’m the one who can’t back anything up.

Here you go.
Google search “doj study on juvenile sex offenders molestations”

There’s a whole list of studies for your perusal. MAYBE you can find one that will back up what you say.

Here is the DOJ study that I actually quoted:
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/227763.pdf

Tell you what Buttercup. I posted my sources AND I did actual quotes.

Put up or shut up.

Let’s see these so called studies that you’ve SUPPOSEDLY read.

Google is a miracle.
If these reports exist that you’ve SUPPOSEDLY read, then you should find them...
in oh...
A FEW SECONDS...maybe a few minutes AT MOST.


What happened Cupcake? You accused me of having nothing to back me up. I gave you two links, backing my claims up.
You made claims that you’ve seen reports that were not as hopeful as mine. AND YET...3 hours later...NOTHING!!!


189 posted on 06/08/2015 8:06:51 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: mountn man

The Gothard therapy would necessarily allow him to blame the victims for part of the crime.

No licensing would happen for that sort of therapy you can be assured.

You can be assured that the ‘cure rates’ from the study you posted did NOT involve Gothard therapy.

If you have any cure rates from Gothard therapy please post them. The reoffense rate would depend on the severity of the problem to begin with.

But JimBob wasn’t going to take any chances with something not Gothard approved.


191 posted on 06/08/2015 8:09:54 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: mountn man

Are you a Christian?


192 posted on 06/08/2015 8:14:58 PM PDT by jimbo807
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