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Pink Slips at Disney. But First, Training Foreign Replacements.
NY Times ^ | JUNE 3, 2015 | JULIA PRESTON

Posted on 06/04/2015 5:39:40 AM PDT by Rockitz

ORLANDO, Fla. — The employees who kept the data systems humming in the vast Walt Disney fantasy fief did not suspect trouble when they were suddenly summoned to meetings with their boss.

While families rode the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train and searched for Nemo on clamobiles in the theme parks, these workers monitored computers in industrial buildings nearby, making sure millions of Walt Disney World ticket sales, store purchases and hotel reservations went through without a hitch. Some were performing so well that they thought they had been called in for bonuses.

Instead, about 250 Disney employees were told in late October that they would be laid off. Many of their jobs were transferred to immigrants on temporary visas for highly skilled technical workers, who were brought in by an outsourcing firm based in India. Over the next three months, some Disney employees were required to train their replacements to do the jobs they had lost.

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Disney executives said that the layoffs were part of a reorganization, and that the company opened more positions than it eliminated.

But the layoffs at Disney and at other companies, including the Southern California Edison power utility, are raising new questions about how businesses and outsourcing companies are using the temporary visas, known as H-1B, to place immigrants in technology jobs in the United States. These visas are at the center of a fierce debate in Congress over whether they complement American workers or displace them.

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“The program has created a highly lucrative business model of bringing in cheaper H-1B workers to substitute for Americans,” said Ronil Hira, a professor of public policy at Howard University who studies visa programs and has testified before Congress about H-1B visas.

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(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: corporatewelfare; disney; disneyh1b; foreignworkers; h1b; racetothebottom
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To: Rockitz
H-1B is not a new thing. I hired one once, never again.

When they first get here(this one from Pakistan) they go thru the topees bar alcohol binge thing. That takes about 6 months. After that if they haven't totaled three cars and been arrested 5 times you might have a decent worker.

21 posted on 06/04/2015 6:13:01 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: XenaLee
Ok, how...exactly....does that happen, Ted? I want a detailed explanation. Not just a vague claim from a study done by some "institute".

The AEI study on H-1B was riddled with flaws: see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3271551/posts?page=207#207 and following.

22 posted on 06/04/2015 6:13:39 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: MaxMax

Both Rick Santorum and Scott Walker have expressed the desire to protect American workers. That would include enforcing laws against illegal immigration as well as allowing H-1B visas only in cases where there are insufficient numbers of qualified American workers.


23 posted on 06/04/2015 6:15:19 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Rockitz

I don’t think Walt would be pleased.


24 posted on 06/04/2015 6:15:34 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Rockitz

American Enterprise Institute, for every additional 100 H-1B workers, 183 jobs....
I don’t know how they fabricated these numbers.


25 posted on 06/04/2015 6:15:57 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Rockitz
H-1B visas only in cases where there are insufficient numbers of qualified American workers.

There is no "controlling legal authority". It is sham scam run on the"honor" system.

26 posted on 06/04/2015 6:16:58 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: TexasGunLover

Walk down any street in the US where real people live and you’ll find people laid off from tech jobs that went overseas or were replaced by cheaper foreign labor.


27 posted on 06/04/2015 6:18:01 AM PDT by grania
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To: KC_Conspirator
Ah, more Obama economy bad news.

The gutting of the American middle class by importing cheap serfs has been going on since 1970:


28 posted on 06/04/2015 6:19:34 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Zathras
American Enterprise Institute, for every additional 100 H-1B workers, 183 jobs....
I don’t know how they fabricated these numbers.

See post #22.

29 posted on 06/04/2015 6:21:19 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: central_va

You are right, right now it’s enough of a losing proposition that those who can do other things, are.


30 posted on 06/04/2015 6:23:05 AM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: BlackAdderess

Getting a STEM education means you forgo 90% of the “fun” of going to college. It is a sacrifice that needs to have a reward attached to it.


31 posted on 06/04/2015 6:25:41 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: XenaLee
according to a study by the American Enterprise Institute...

I don't know just how they get their numbers, but in my neck of the woods, skilled factory jobs are disappearing fast.

But wait. Where the factories used to be, I now see dollar stores and fast-food restaurants. So the skilled trade jobs are being replaced by unskilled, throw-away jobs. Old jobs gone, new jobs replace them. Maybe that's what the American Enterprise Institute is talking about.

32 posted on 06/04/2015 6:26:17 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Rockitz

The short-range goal of businesses is to save money. The short-range tragedy is the loss of jobs to better-qualified Americans. The long-range danger to America is going to be the eroding of our tech expertise, as people just stop going the STEM route in their education.


33 posted on 06/04/2015 6:26:42 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Rockitz

The only way to get me into a Disney facility is to kill me and then drag my body inside.


34 posted on 06/04/2015 6:26:43 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Leaning Right
I don't know just how they get their numbers

See post #22.

35 posted on 06/04/2015 6:28:07 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Rockitz

to qualify you have to advertise for the job. The qualifications are so convoluted and out of date that no modern person would be qualified for such a private sector job.

(ie 8 inch floppy data retrieval. Writing windows applications in fortran/basic/cobol or other obsolete language)

H1B is just code for “we want to pay less”. This should not be confused with agricultural temp visas.


36 posted on 06/04/2015 6:28:50 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Political Junkie Too
In Disney's case, the qualified American workers were already on the job.

Disney did not fire it's U.S. IT workers and replace them with H-1Bs. They outsourced their IT functions to an outside vendor and fired their IT workers. It was the outside vendor who hired the H-1Bs.

37 posted on 06/04/2015 6:29:01 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: TexasGunLover
I'd rather see 500% increase of US students in STEM programs, but they're too busy with art history, social justice, and political science degrees.

Why should U.S. students go into IT or Engineering or Science when they know that by the time they reach the mid-point of their career they will likely be replaced by a cheaper foreign worker?

38 posted on 06/04/2015 6:31:13 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Don Corleone

Walt left California because he was screwed by the unions. When it came time to name names, he did not hesitate.


39 posted on 06/04/2015 6:31:41 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: central_va

You are right, and a number of low paid or free internships followed by probable unemployment is no reward. First and foremost, the smart kids want to be able to earn a living with what they learn.


40 posted on 06/04/2015 6:32:12 AM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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