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'Not recognizing Israel as Jewish is anti-Semitic, Pope says'
Times of Israel ^ | May 28, 2015 | Avi Lewis

Posted on 05/30/2015 10:36:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

In comments made to veteran Portuguese-Israeli journalist Henrique Cymerman Thursday, Francis was quoted as saying that "anyone who does not recognize the Jewish people and the State of Israel -- and their right to exist -- is guilty of anti-Semitism."

Francis was also said to have backtracked on statements he was reportedly heard making earlier this month designating the visiting Abbas "a bit an angel of peace."

The pope recalled telling Abbas in Italian that he hopes the Palestinian chief might one day become an angel of peace in the future, according to Cymerman -- although ostensibly he has not yet reached that level.

The comments were sent by the Pope in writing to Cymerman along with Argentine Rabbi Abraham Skorka, one of Francis's close interfaith colleagues, after the duo approached him following his meeting with Abbas, Channel 2 reported.

In an email we got from Pope Francis:"Whoever does not recognize the Jewish People and the State of Israel falls in antisemitism"

..."It is regrettable that Mahmoud Abbas uses international forums to attack Israel and refrains from returning to negotiations which is the right way to implement a political vision and a solution of peace," said Foreign Ministry spokesman Emmanuel Nahshon.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesofisrael.com ...


TOPICS: Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: globalwarminghoax; henriquecymerman; israel; jerusalem; jewishstate; popefrancis; romancatholicism; rop; stateofpalestine
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Rabbi Abraham Skorka with Pope Francis in the Vatican, May 21, 2014. (Youtube screenshot / HolylandPilgrimage)

Rabbi Abraham Skorka with Pope Francis in the Vatican, May 21, 2014. (Youtube screenshot / HolylandPilgrimage)

1 posted on 05/30/2015 10:36:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Jogging the jog.

2 posted on 05/30/2015 10:37:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Hmm. First recognize the “State of Palestine”, which by definition stipulates a divided Jerusalem with the Arab “half” as its capital; and then insist that Israel is a Jewish state, which stipulates a 100% Jewish Jerusalem as its capital. Ye cannot serve two masters, and a double-minded man is unstable in all his ways.


3 posted on 05/30/2015 10:44:35 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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But recognizing Palestine as a state, is not anti-Semetic?


4 posted on 05/30/2015 10:45:28 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: SunkenCiv

and committing or supporting terror.


5 posted on 05/30/2015 10:46:09 AM PDT by umgud (When under attack, victims want 2 things; God & a gun)
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To: SunkenCiv

To recognize a Palestinian state is to not recognize Israel.

To declare man made global warning is to assume mans power over God

To preach Communism is to pander to slavery

what say ye popester


6 posted on 05/30/2015 10:50:07 AM PDT by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: SunkenCiv

7 posted on 05/30/2015 10:51:57 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Olog-hai; StoneWall Brigade; CynicalBear; delchiante; 444Flyer; SkyPilot; Iscool

Just another cog in the machine of the false peace that is coming.

A Jewish state living side by side with a Palestinian state, in “peace and security” - now just need a political leader to confirm such a deal for about, oh, 7 lunar years, or 2,520 days.

Just imagine if world “leaders” spoke about “peace and security”:

1 Thessalonians 5:1-4 English Standard Version (ESV)
The Day of the Lord

5 Now concerning the times and the seasons, brothers,[a] you have no need to have anything written to you. 2 For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, “There is -—peace and security-—,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. 4 But you are not in darkness, brothers, for that day to surprise you like a thief.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpJbAE6BmHo


8 posted on 05/30/2015 10:53:55 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Olog-hai

The Vatican didn’t recognize Israel until 1993, after Israel’s “leader” of the time committed to Israel’s own destruction.


9 posted on 05/30/2015 10:57:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: ebb tide
recognizing Palestine as a state

Oh, they can be a state if they want...

Somewhere else!

10 posted on 05/30/2015 10:58:41 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: SunkenCiv

Yet, recognizing America as American is a hate crime eh?


11 posted on 05/30/2015 11:00:15 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: SunkenCiv

Speaking as a Catholic, this Pope is an embarrassment. He needs to get off the stage.


12 posted on 05/30/2015 11:17:25 AM PDT by SMM48
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To: The Toll

Give him a break, he was loaded on communal wine.


13 posted on 05/30/2015 11:17:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: hosepipe
Tim Curry from Legend...I liked that flick.
14 posted on 05/30/2015 11:19:44 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: SunkenCiv
"anyone who does not recognize the Jewish people and the State of Israel -- and their right to exist -- is guilty of anti-Semitism, and we will recognize them as a state."
15 posted on 05/30/2015 11:28:30 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

/bingo

We’ll see *another* backtrack I’m sure.


16 posted on 05/30/2015 11:45:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: SunkenCiv
From the article: Francis was also said to have backtracked on statements he was reportedly heard making earlier this month designating the visiting Abbas "a bit an angel of peace."

This may not fit the political agenda of this newspaper, but the Pope actually said to Abbas: "May you be an angel of peace". -- It was a small, yet meaningful and timely prayer--nothing more and nothing less.

17 posted on 05/30/2015 12:24:35 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: ebb tide
But recognizing Palestine as a state, is not anti-Semetic?

Wait...what?

Just this week Netanyahu was in front of the cameras with a representative from the EU saying he wants to restart peace negotiations with the Palestinians and proposed defining the borders of a Palestinian state with a focus on the West Bank and Jerusalem.

Are you implying that Bibi's anti-semetic?

18 posted on 05/30/2015 12:38:27 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Olog-hai

“Ye cannot serve two masters, and a double-minded man is unstable in all his ways.”

There’s nothing double-minded about it.

1) “First recognize the “State of Palestine”, which by definition stipulates a divided Jerusalem with the Arab “half” as its capital;”

Quite simply that does not have to be the case.

2) “and then insist that Israel is a Jewish state, which stipulates a 100% Jewish Jerusalem as its capital.”

First of all, there is no “stipulation” in Israel that Jerusalem must be “100% Jewish”. If that were the case, then there would be no Muslims, Christians, or other non-Jews living there now. Perhaps you mean 100% Israeli? That is, indeed, what Israel says. But that isn’t what Israel insisted on before 1967. Things can change again. Once there was an Israel, then there wasn’t, now there is again. Once there was a Jerusalem which was divided, then it wasn’t, it might be again.


19 posted on 05/30/2015 12:57:54 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: ebb tide; SunkenCiv
Yeah, I just heard of another anti-Semitic freak who wants to negotiate with those terrorists to have a Palestinian state involving the West Bank and Jerusalem---- can you believe it!!?

It's that slippery Likud guy, Benjamin Netanyahu.

20 posted on 05/30/2015 12:59:50 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It was impossible to get a conversation going; everybody was talking too much." - Yogi Berra)
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