Prison officials want to buy nearly 5 million rounds

WND ^ | May 29, 2015 | Bob Unruh

[Perseverando]

Bids from 'Service Disabled Veteran Owned Small Businesses' sought by June 29

Another branch of the federal government is poised to make a massive purchase of ammunition, including hollow points, an expanding bullet designed for “maximizing tissue damage and blood loss or shock.”

A new Federal Bureau of Prisons shopping list includes:

1 million 9 mm Lugar 124 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point rounds;

1 million 9 mm Lugar 124 Grain Jacketed Ball rounds;

1 million 9 mm Lugar 115 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point rounds;

1.5 million .223 caliber 55 Grain Full Metal Jacket rounds;

40,000 12 Gauge #4 Buckshot 27 Pellets rounds;

185,000 12 Gauge #7 ½ shot rounds;

10,000 12 Gauge Rifled Slug 1 oz.;

and 55,000 Cartridge .308 168 Grain Boat Tail rounds.

The list was posted as an online solicitation at FedBizOpps.gov.

It specifies that the source of the millions of rounds can only be a “Service Disabled Veteran Owned Small Business,” and the ammunition must be delivered to various agency locations over a period of several years.

“All ammunition must be new initial load. NO RELOADED ammunition will be accepted, inclusive of factory or otherwise.”

[riverrunner]

One uses bird shot for training it is a lot cheaper then buck or slugs and accomplishes a lot of the things you need in training people with a shot gun.

[VerySadAmerican]

Service Disabled Veteran Owned Small Business? Are there a bunch of service connected disabled vets in the ammo business? If not it might be a good time for some vets to start some. All they have to do is buy from a major manufacture and mark them up 5%.

[VerySadAmerican]

This is exactly how it works. There are also minority owned businesses that only do business with the government. Every government purchasing agent has to purchase a certain amount from minority owned businesses each year. Lots of these simply have the merchandise drop shipped from the bigger companies and skim a little off the top.

There are also lots of bigger companies that have deals with minority owned companies just for this reason.

[Captain Marvell]

If I may...
I am the Armory Officer at a Correctional Facility in the State of Missouri, and as such I am responsible for ordering all of the ammunition used by the staff. I can attest to the large amount of ammunition required to annually certify just a handful of staff members.
My professional observation is, for the amount of staff at these various agencies that will be certifying, this is actually a reasonable purchase.

[MasterGunner01]

Should we infer that the Bureau of Prisons is going to war with its inmates and needs all this ammunition to execute them? Is this Obama’s Final Solution to the Prison Problem? Once all the prisons kill off their residents, who gets to refill them? Has FedGov been taking any bids for crematoriums or is EPA withholding approval?

[DaveA37]

“Within ten feet it would probably act a lot like a slug entering “.........

Shot this size could easily be used when doing room to room searches. Certainly you don't want those pellets to go through walls when you don't know what's on the other side.

Then again, there may be a lot of quail coveys around that need thinning.

[skimbell]

Counting everything in the order except the shotgun shells, the total purchase would get each of the 40K employees (obviously this is not how the ammo would be distributed but...)about 115 rounds.

Not much for a years activity.

[itsahoot]

That looks like a lot of work to make a 12 ga. slug that won’t be as effective as a lead slug.

Slugs are hard to come by and expensive, more than a dollar a round. Bird shot is widely available and cheap. Look into the waxer a little deeper you may find that there is a reason your assertion may not be right. There is a physical reason the waxer distributes force differently than a slug. Some people use hot glue or just wood glue, but wax is much cheaper.

[Sherman Logan]

Seems to me a wax/birdshot slug might fragment on impact or shortly thereafter. Which means it might actually do more damage, or at least more widespread damage than a lead slug.

Though doing more damage than a lead slug to a person would be sort of the definition of overkill.

But I’m definitely not any sort of expert in this area.

[xone]

Interesting to note that the ammo can only be obtained from a “Service Disabled Veteran Owned Small Business,”

Not really, this is a small business set aside. All agencies that federally contract have target %'s that have to go to different mandated groups. It is likely that a vendor is already identified or a manufacturer that has a qualifying business partner already. The FedBiz posting reads like one of the gundecked 'opportunities' that appear on that site.

[xone]

Are the guards going dove hunting?

The 7 1/2 shells are likely for familiarization firing for the shotgun.

[Lurker]

Thank you. Mrs L and I went through 500 rounds of .45 ACP just this week. We try to do that monthly.

So that’s 6,000 rounds annually for just the two of us.

L

[TigersEye]

Room to room searches in a prison? Aren’t most of the walls in prisons concrete?

[TigersEye]

I hadn’t thought of the price difference. I guess you can get 7 1/2 shot for less than .32 cents per round.

[TigersEye]

I saw a lot of Youtube videos on making wax shells. I had never heard of that before.