Posted on 05/27/2015 10:43:30 AM PDT by Academiadotorg
They may be the big men and women on campus but off campus they are just men and women.
The claim of legal status depends on the prior claim that academics are special, even exceptional, and, because exceptional, exempt from the rules and regulations that apply to others, Stanley Fish writes in his book, Visions of Academic Freedom: From Professionalism To Revolution, published last year. This thesisI call it academic exceptionalismhas been put forward in the courts, but, more often than not, it has been rejected.
Fish is a professor of law at Florida International University. The logic of execeptionalism is given a full expression in Urofsky v. Gilmore (Fourth Circuit, 2000), where it is rejected by the court, Fish wrote. The case is exemplary for my purposes because it presents in sharp contrast two characterizations of academics who teach at public universities.
In one characterization, university teachers are public employees no less bound by generally applicable laws and regulations than a clerk or a custodian or assistant district attorney. In the other, university teachers, because they are engaged in the special knowledge, deserve more freedom from employment control than typical employees.
Fish is also a visiting professor of law at the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law.
Don’t we all.
Their exceptionalism is merely academic.
Those who can’t do Leach
Another Leg of “Diverisity Crap.”
Oh, I LIKE!
I love feeding all of you straight lines;>)
I like your comment.
I’ll have to admit I don’t like lumping all teachers into one category, but frankly I don’t see a single one of them standing up to what is taking place in our schools.
They all support it or give it the exact same resistance Boehner and McConnell give Obama’s plans... tacit support through silence or enabling actions.
So your “Leach” comment hits home with me.
As far as I am concerned, they can fire every teacher and professor in the nation today. We could start from scratch and do better than these fifth column sellouts.
Actually, off campus they are very often morons with absolutely NO common sense.
“As far as I am concerned, they can fire every teacher and professor in the nation today. We could start from scratch and do better than these fifth column sellouts.”
DO, that’s the post of the day!!! In my view, there aren’t enough lamp posts available for what really needs to be done. “Academics” are at the core of what is wrong with America today. Most of them should be tried for treason and dispatched, starting with this guy Gruber of Obamacare “fame.”
“But I live in an Ivory Tower of self-importance!! Doesn’t that count for anything!?? I believe it, therefor I am!”
‘Politics in academia are so vicious precisely because the stakes are so low’ ~somebody, herd it from KC Johnson of DukeLAX fame
lol
The other practical side effect of this ruling: professors who set up rape tribunals to railroad men, while denying them the full charges against them, the right to question the accuse and legal counsel, etc will not be exempt from lawsuits the way judges are.
“Actually, off campus they are very often morons with absolutely NO common sense.”
Friend of mine ran security on a local campus. They used a 24 hour clock. The Dean he answered to never mastered converting it to 12 hour format.
If a college professor makes a lame legal argument supporting “academic exceptionalism”, and no court listens to him, did he make a sound?
Sayre’s Law.
That is why he is a Dean and not a professor.
not until he/she got back to the podium.
No one is going to argue with you on that one
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