[Sherman Logan]

Of course, there is the Treaty of Tripoli, 1797, which stated, “the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”

Agree or disagree, that is what it said.

[ClearCase_guy]

I do wish that the Constitution had declared the US to be a Christian nation.

I believe one of the points of the First Amendment is that we did not want sectarian fighting between Christian denominations. We did not want to argue about whether the government-supported church would be Lutheran or Methodist. We wanted Congress to make no laws on this issue.

But declaring a national sense of the US being a Christian nation would have helped us, I think.

[Responsibility2nd]

Buchanan is right. To those who mistakenly believe that morals, values and religion have no place in our laws and our courts; congratulations.

You now have the government you want.

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[Mrs. Don-o]

Well said, and too sad for words.

[oldbrowser]

Many churches came out to meet the cultural revolution halfway. The results were irrelevance and scandal -- too many Elmer Gantrys in televangelist pulpits and too many predators in priestly cassocks.

Christianity is being diluted by infighting of Christian sects. Every time I read about it I think of the story of the Tower of Babel.

[StoneWall Brigade]

Excellent article by Pat Buchanan.

[skinndogNN]

7 of 10 are Christians? That’s actually more than I thought it would be.

Of course, most of those 7, don’t tithe or go to church every Sunday.

[mulligan]

Should read - ‘The decline of America’. And why? Many reasons.

Abortion, removal of prayer in many areas, political correctness, incompetent, greedy and selfish politicians who think they are gods, no standards of conduct like the 10 commandments (just do what feels good including a marriage of men to men and women to women), right is wrong and wrong is right, an almost non-existent educational system or program ( today is little more than just a brainwashing program),a massive government out of control relative to spending, racism encouraged, class warfare encouraged, police forces under attack, our military under attack, truth, decency and virtue under attack. and voters who seem to care little about the current mess. Evil is on the Throne - Good is on the Gallows. And the Rubicon has probably been crossed.

[all the best]

The U.S. Constitution was the very first such document in western civilization that did not invoke God but “we the people”. It all began right there.

[Steve_Seattle]

"By accommodating the social revolution of the 1960s to stay relevant, mainline churches appear to have made themselves irrelevant to America's young."

The paradox is easily explained: the churches did not just "accommodate" the social revolution, they accepted its proponents as the true sources of moral and intellectual leadership.

Not long after, the Left became the official voice of public morality - Freud's super-ego - as expressed through the news media, entertainment industry, and world of academia.

Once this was done, there was no reason to look to those churches as the source of moral or intellectual leadership, hence they became irrelevant. The churches were just parroting what they were hearing from secular elites. It's an American version of the Middle Eastern idea of "following the strong man."

It is almost comical to see older members of those liberal churches - especially the clergy - still acting as if they are a besieged, prophetic minority, rather than the new establishment.

[rdb3]

"America was born a Christian nation," echoed Woodrow Wilson.

I would NOT have quoted President 'Birth of a Nation' Wilson to bolster my argument here. He did some quite un-Christian things as president.

Jesus Christ: You can’t impeach Him and He ain’t gonna resign.

[Happy1947]

What is it that the “Mainline Protestant” organizations have in common? Most are moving away from Biblical teaching and pushing secularism into their congregations. No wonder “Christianity” is “dying” in America. Many Christians aren’t interested in their version of what religion should be. The farther they move from what the Bible teaches then obviously the further from Christianity they become.

[Unam Sanctam]

Pat is right, and it has made me feel very depressed about our country these days. I just don’t like the society America has turned into. Although I have heretofore thought it something of a craven surrender in the culture wars, perhaps an inward-turning, smaller, faithful Church using the Benedictine solution is what we and civilization needs to ride out the storm until better times come?

[prairiebreeze]

The dilution and elimination of sin and its consequences by churches and society are at the root of much of our societal troubles. It was a corrdinated and organized effort that has had devastating results. The ultimate anti-personal responsibility campaign against the West and humanity at large.

With devastating consequences both in this life and (most importantly) eternally...

[momincombatboots]

This is a good thing. Christianity is not where you are born, your last name or any other thing than a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I expect a real purge to take place, because eventually it will cost a lot more than a few dollars and a few hours a week. It will cost careers, prestige, success and so much more up to and including life.Maybe we can all strive to be that kind of Christian who would give up everything... Maybe I will start today.

[metmom]

We are riding on the coattails of the heritage we were given and wasted.

What we sow in the wind we will reap in the whirlwind, and what we’re sowing now makes me dread what is coming.

I think it’s going to be far worse than we can imagine unless God intervenes in a very unusual way.