Posted on 05/25/2015 10:28:17 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Judge John O’Donnell did something absolutely amazing on Saturday, when he chose to acquit white Cleveland cop Michael Brelo of manslaughter in the 2012 killing of two lawbreakers who sent police on a 22-mile car chase.
“Brelo’s entire use of deadly force was a constitutionally reasonable response to an objectionably reasonably perceived threat of great bodily harm,” the judge announced.
He added, “I will not sacrifice him to the public frustrated by historical mistreatment at the hands of other officers.”
What occurred in 2012 was that a couple, Timothy Russell and Malissa Williams, were driving past the Cleveland police headquarters when their vehicle backfired. The police thought that perhaps someone had fired a weapon, so they began pursuing the couple’s vehicle.
But rather than simply stop, the couple chose to lead the police on a dangerous high-speed chase. The pursuit eventually ended when their vehicle rammed into a police car in a middle school parking lot, after which they drove toward one officer.
Likewise, protesters in Cleveland took to the streets to confront police officers. One of them threw an object through a store window. Protesters also tried to make an issue out of “the fact that Brelo is white and Russell and Williams were black.”
The judge apparently didn’t care about race, however, because he chose to make his decision based on the actual facts.
Unfortunately, the same cannot be said about the Department of Justice, which has chosen to “review the testimony and evidence” because second-guessing the objective and non-biased decision of a white judge is the thing to do these days.
We had a ‘72 Malibu. One backfire in ‘81. It was back in the day when companies would pay to have vehicles shipped when relocating. It took several months and the backfire happened when we first started driving it after 6 months of sitting wherever it was stored. A few tweaks, it was fine.
We sold it in ‘85 and new owner was still driving it in ‘95. Best car ever. Had we known how it compared to cars manufactured later, we would never have parted with it. After a few more GM cars we went Ford and Honda.
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If a soldier jumped on the hood of a car in Iraq, and emptied a full mag into the occupants, he would be court martialed.
If it has actually backfired several times the muffler would be either blown OFF or blown OUT, resulting in a very loud exhaust. This I know from experience, having, as a juvenile delinquent intentionally backfired my old Plymouth by turning the ignition off an on (there’s a trick to it) and having to replace the blown muffler to pass state inspection.
Not all that familiar with the ROEs in Iraq, but the cops here do seem to operate under somewhat looser ones.
I wasn’t there, so don’t know what happened. But whenever somebody is “trying to run them down,” it apparently justifies shooting 100+ rounds.
If a cop can’t get away, I can see that. But most of the time it seems likely he can duck behind a car or tree. Then cops can use their vehicles, instead of bullets, to stop the car definitively.
I fail to see how standing on top of the hood of a non-moving car & firing into it is "reasonable" in any way.
We'll see how everyone likes these rulings when law enforcement expands who they come after in the future.
Does the OLD trick of driving by, flipping the ignition switch of, then back on while rolling still work on modern cars? It used to bake a really loud bang 45 years ago.
ROE for police is to basically follow and not be proactive in stopping a pursuit until all the T’s are crossed.
That was fascinating information. Thank you.
All this technology is slightly before my time, and it is very interesting.
I am learning about this archaic concept called “vapor lock” right now. I don’t think vapor lock is even possible in a modern car.
Thoughts?
You just reminded me of the time I lived in San Francisco.
Remember all, this event happened while driving, followed by a high speed chase. Not likely engine timing is a cause of a “backfire”.
A friend of mine had an old VW Beetle, he claimed that when he drove it at around 35-40MPH in 3rd gear, if he heard a popping from the exhaust every 1-2 seconds he knew the timing was right. Sounds crazy, but that car ran very well.
Indeed it is. And any car running poorly enough to backfire will likely not be able to engage a "dangerous high-speed chase".
OK I’m going with the “backfire” thread hijack.
I must have done it 1000 times on cue in my 1976 Datsun 510 wagon with a straight though Glasspack muffler. You could see right through it - it really wasn’t a muffler as much as a bulge in the tailpipe. Turn the key off while coasting, start up 5 secs later, BOOM. Chicks really dug it /s
Hey I was 16.
Baffled mufflers may see different results ;)
“Without respect to persons”
It’s the bedrock of the administration of justice.
Of course ‘progressives’ despise it.
Vapor lock can happen in practically any system which transfers liquid fuel, if the fuel gets hot enough (at a low enough pressure) to vaporize. The typical problem is that the gas pump won’t work as it can’t pump vapor.
Vapor lock is less likely in a fuel injected system due to the positive pressures which tend to be the lines, reducing the chance of vaporization (even if hot the pressure keeps it from going to vapor).
But it can happen. When it does it can really tough to diagnose. Takes a lot of time waiting for the engine to cool.
In 1977 a friend bought a ‘75 Chevy. Thing ran like crap. He fiddled with the carb but it really came to life when I advanced the timing. Ran like a rabbit with my best beagle on its tail.
It would sound like someone firing a shotgun when he let off the gas.
And it was an automatic.
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