Posted on 05/23/2015 2:58:49 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
The shootout in Waco that killed nine motorcycle gang members began in the weeks before Christmas with a beating at a Toys for Tots event in Wise County and a murder in Fort Worth, according to law enforcement sources.
The backdrop is a growing turf battle between the Bandidos – which has controlled Texas for years – and the Cossacks, a lesser-known biker gang that has been gaining power by aligning itself with Bandido rivals, the sources said.
On Dec. 12, 10 Bandidos burst into Gator’s bar in Fort Worth and "without saying a word, started punching and attacking people," according to a police affidavit.
They then opened fire, killing one motorcycle club member, Geoff Brady of Arlington, and injuring three others, police said.
Three gang members were arrested on murder charges. They are out of jail on $100,000 bond each.
Exactly one week earlier, on Dec. 6, other Bandidos members beat a rival biker at a Toys for Tots event in Decatur, police said. The victim declined to press charges and no arrests were made.
Law enforcement sources say the two incidents and now the Waco shootout highlight a growing fight for control of those drug trafficking routes in Texas.
Groups pay a "tax" to the Bandidos for permission to operate freely without trouble, experts say, but the Cossacks are refusing to pay the Bandidos and are aligning themselves with other biker gangs, including the Bandidos’ largest rival, the Hell’s Angels.
"Like any criminal organization, it's about money, it's about control, it's about a lifestyle,” said former North Texas FBI agent Gil Torrez.
"You know, be it La Cosa Nostra, or be it motorcycle gangs, if they are a criminal organization, sooner or later, they have to be dealt with." The Texas Department of Public Safety profiled the Bandidos in an unclassified Texas Gang Threat Assessment just last year.
It identifies the Bandidos Outlaw Motorcycle Gang as a criminal enterprise, right behind the Bloods and the Crips street gangs.
"Although these gangs vary in size and structure, they are responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime across urban, suburban and rural areas of Texas," the report said.
Following the Fort Worth murder, the Bandidos and Cossacks have been involved in at least a dozen violent attacks across North Texas involving hammers, chains and guns, experts said. In some cases, rival gang members have tried to literally run each other off highways.
Now, with the high-profile shootout in Waco, local, state and federal law enforcement agencies are gearing up to crack down.
"Law enforcement has got to be on high alert,” Torrez said. “I'm sure they're beating the bricks and doing what they can to develop human intelligence and try to defend against this."
To prevent trouble, some North Texas bar owners are now posting signs which prohibit customers from entering with motorcycle club "cuts, colors or support T-shirts."
Others have similar dress codes.
"We don't allow any of the colors, the back patches, the knifes [sic], the chains — anything like that," said Brandon Murdoch, with Chill Sports Bar & Grill in Grapevine. "We have plenty of people that ride motorcycles that come in here, we even have a designated motorcycle parking, but none of the '1 per-centers' as they like to call themselves."
"If you bend for one or two, then five or six are going to show up, and it can be pretty intimidating for a bar owner," added Murdoch.
Trying to find anything they can to justify shooting at a crowded restaurant and parking lot full of innocent people.
Or maybe the bikers are just huge pieces of crap and brought down a firefight in a restaurant and got their asses handed to them for doing so.
CC
I went to a couple of the linked articles. They rely heavily on Jay Dobyns version of what goes on. Lol
Dobyns is a proven liar who is such an opportunist that he sued his old employer, the BATF.
If they are relying on Dobyns, they’re reaching pretty hard.
I live in North Texas, watch local news every day, and this is the first I have heard of any of these previous altercations between “biker gangs”
What’s the difference between an ‘unnamed source’ and a rumor?
Until such time as the “authorities” produce one officer who states clearly that the police shooters were under his control and either fired AFTER his order was given or upon satisfying themselves that the conditions he explicitly outlined in advance had been met I do not believe what we are dealing with here is what Law Enforcement and the media are so desperately trying to say happened is what DID happen. All evidence so far, in the absence of such, points to police shooters out of control. If the police are going to act like “just another gang” let them provide their own resources to do so.
The interesting part for me is that multiple gangs were there and yet all 9 of the dead were magically from 1 gang only, with much talk about THAT upstart gang (the one with all the KIA) refusing to pay a drug operating fee.
Hmmmm....
Yeah, sure. They started it with the LEO military wannabes. Go the the website and read. I'm sure the bikers were just ichin' fer a fight with a SWAT team...
I doubt the autopsy reports will be release until the trials begin, if there are actual trials.
The bullet forensics should end the discussion of a gang shootout.
At this point, I think it looks like Waco Police got bad “intelligence” on the bikers and over reacted to actions of one biker who pulled a gun. (probably not on police) Then when officers started firing they all ran, one stopping to return 1 round and it went down hill from there.
I would not feel like this and would side with the police, but the idiot “spokesman” for the police has no credibility. The story changes too often and is too outrageous to be credible. And there is video, other than police video that contradicts the police version of what happened.
So there we are, 170+ people in jail, 18 wounded, 9 killed and the MSM is still filling us full of crap. Headshake.
S.O.P.
Like I said, until one officer is produced who was responsible for giving the order to fire and did so the inevitable conclusion that rationally has to be accepted is a police riot. The behavior of the police and their spokesmen would seem to confirm the conclusion.
Don’t know why cops bother anymore. Turn the thugs loose and be done with it.
Agree.
Waco PD in CYA mode. Anything that does not support their story line is silenced. Even when proven with video and witnesses that their story line is a lie.
If they had stayed at home, it is probable no one would have been killed.
But here we are.
I agree. Hmmm...
>>What’s the difference between an ‘unnamed source’ and a rumor?
Rumors (i.e. the grapevine) usually have some basis in facts. Unnamed sources operate purely to advance their agenda.
I have no idea what the facts are.
Did you find this on the internet?
Care to bet a dollar to a doughnut the ones starting the trouble were paid to start it?
When something is too convenient and the left immediately politicizes it, it’s generally not just a coincidence but planned.
Texas just missed one mass shooting and the anti gun crowd were really in a funk.
After this look how happy they are and how nicely it fits in with the anti open carry debate.
Yeah.
Even though most of the bikers at the restaurant were Christian motorcyclists and various antique bike groups and custom bike building clubs, the police firing on a crowd was such a good idea.
Because motorcycles are the tool of the devil, evidently.
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