Posted on 05/22/2015 6:12:39 PM PDT by robowombat
SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS TO REPLACE FLAGS AT UNION SPRINGS
Gary Carlyle, Commander of the Alabama Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, announced today that at 10 a.m. on Saturday morning, May 23rd, the SCV will replace the memorial flags which were recently removed from a Confederate cemetery in Union Springs, Alabama by an individual in that town.
In a statement, Carlyle said that he wished to thank Mayor Saint T. Thomas, Jr. and the City Council of Union Springs for working together with the Sons of Confederate Veterans on the restoration project.
"The Mayor and the Council have been very understanding and co-operative with us," said Carlyle. "He has been very helpful in making this happen."
Ben Jones, Chief of Heritage Operations for the 30,000 member Sons of Confederate Veterans, an international organization of men who are directly descended from those who fought for the Confederacy, praised the Mayor for "taking a clear stance for healing and reconciliation."
"The removal of these flags from the graves of our ancestors was a terribly wrong-headed, provocative and divisive action," said Jones. "No amount of political sanctimony can excuse it. Our membership asks that this ceremony on Saturday will be given the respect and reverence it deserves by all. We are grateful for the leadership of Mayor Thomas during this time, and we are hopeful that the event will take place in an atmosphere of reflection and genuine understanding. "
Now you’re being deliberately obtuse.
Please tell me about your favorite example of domestic insurrections that any British emancipation of colonial slaves brought forth.
“Maybe I take the words found there too seriously. The signers of the Declaration of Independence joked around all the time.”
I don’t care how you feel about Lincoln’s decision to fight an optional war, that right there is funny.
wow , this puts you into the very rare category of ‘ Real Son’
That’s amazing sir ! With whom did he serve?
Mine was 15th Miss
I hope you yourself are SCV
I read that Lincoln was gay or bisexual but I did not know about President Washington. One of my mom’s ancestors fought wih President Washington at Valley Forge or so I read. I love history.
Before anyone else tells me that the North(Federal Government) did not tax exports, you are right, the were called “Tarriffs” and the commerce clause was amended in 1830 to allow this. You need to learn how to read and do your own research.
‘I read that Lincoln was gay or bisexual ‘
There seems to be an Abe for every taste; Martyr Abe, Saviour Abe, Tyrant Abe, Clever Operator Abe, Racist Abe, Clinically Depressed Abe, and now Gay Abe. The gay part comes from some rather emotional sounding letters he wrote to guys he knew before marrying Mary Todd. Victorian Americans regularly gushed about their same sex friendships in a way we would find well odd, otherwise when Abe was on the court circuit he regularly shared his bed with other young lawyers. Everyone did. Inns rented sleeping space not rooms so individuals could end up sleeping three to a bed when court was in session. Doesn’t mean some sort of queer sex treesome was underway.
Article I, Section 9, Clause 5: “No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.”
None ever has been.
For some obscure reason lots of the CSA apologist types have an impression that southern exports were taxed at extortionist rate. The actual fact, of course, is they were never taxed at all.
Just don’t try telling that to GT1945 cuz he’s done his reading and his research LOL
You are entirely wrong on this, sir. See post above.
Also, no amendments were ratified between the 12th in 1804 and the 13th in 1865.
DEFINITION of 'Tariff' A tax imposed on imported goods and services. Tariffs are used to restrict trade, as they increase the price of imported goods and services, making them more expensive to consumers.
The protective and other tariffs, paid equally by all consumers in the country, were somehow in the minds of southerners turned into something aimed solely at them.
One last time, It wasn’t a Constitutional amendment, it was a change in the commerce clause. I give up trying to inform people who have a locked in mindset.
Since the Constitution prohibits taxes on exports, it would have required an amendment to put in such a tax.
To what commerce clause are you referring? I assumed, perhaps inaccurately, that you were referring to one of the clauses about commerce in the Constitution.
Feel free to post a link to whatever commerce clause you believe was changed in 1830.
I don’t have a locked-in mindset. All you have to do is demonstrate why you are right.
I posted a section of the Constitution prohibiting export taxes. If you have evidence of such taxes, please post it and I’ll change my mind. But so far all you’ve done is proclaim that the change was made, not provide any evidence.
I don’t have time to quote everything in the constitution, Why don’t you tell me where the federal Government got it’s money from prior to 1860.
Prior to 1860 the federal government was funded almost entirely by import tariffs and by sale of public lands, with a few minor excise taxes.
I’m not asking you to quote large segments of the Constitution or federal law, simply the commerce clause you claim was modified in 1830 to allow export tariffs.
I suspect what you done is garbled an account of the Tariff of Abominations.
Your history is even worse than your spelling. There was no 'export' Tariff then --- only an import tariff, which BTW, the Confederate Congress also imposed during their first session.
So they magically changed the Commerce Clause in the Constitution without amending the Constitution?
How did they do that?
Isn’t that a great question
Not the first Lost Cause neo reb I have seen that deeply believes that the south paid all the taxes back then through "export tariffs'. The crap they read intentionally confounds the difference between exports and imports to somehow make tariffs the cause for the war. Part of the Big Lie they have bought into.
Here's a handy graphic that shows where Federal Revenue came from back then.
You do know that slavery was legal in Massachusetts until after the War of Aggression, don’t you? In fact, it was illegal to free your slave in Massachusetts if you didn’t post a bond to do so. Boston was 10% black at one time before the War of Aggression.
And are you aware that the 1790 federal census listed no slaves in Massachusetts? Technically you are correct - slavery had not been formally outlawed but it also wasn’t practiced.
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