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False Flags, Biker Gangs, and the PATCON Legacy
Lew Rockwell .com ^ | 5/21/2015 | William Norman Grigg

Posted on 05/21/2015 5:37:51 AM PDT by Jack Black

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To: ctdonath2

“shooting the first guy who apparently pulls a knife on another. “

Justified shooting. At least that is what they say on the concealed carry threads and 2nd amendment threads ...


61 posted on 05/21/2015 7:42:16 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Smokin' Joe

I got what you did there ;-)


62 posted on 05/21/2015 7:46:41 AM PDT by LadyBuck (....and we're off to the rodeo......)
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To: TexasGator
Why would a Christian Biker hang out with 1%’ers at a bar called Twin Peaks! Beam Me Up!

From the article: "The COC is a way to let others know about upcoming legislation, events & rides as well as discuss Patch issues. "

Legislation, events and rides apply to anyone who rides, even Christian Motorcyclists.

63 posted on 05/21/2015 7:47:08 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Many suspect the Cassocks are a front for the Feds.

Interesting, since the Cossacks are also reportedly allied with the Hell's Angels (the Bandidos' long-time rival / enemy).

I can see the feds possibly stirring things up within the skinhead biker crowd, just to pull something into the news other than Ferguson/Baltimore/etc.

64 posted on 05/21/2015 7:48:24 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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mark


65 posted on 05/21/2015 7:49:16 AM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: TexasGator
Oh, okay. The media never choose a narrative and run with it.
66 posted on 05/21/2015 7:55:17 AM PDT by PalmettoMason
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To: TexasGator

You referenced Security Video from the Twin Peaks Restaurant.. Has that been released? I have not heard of that...(not that I know everything.. just have seen no reference to it anywhere); therefore, how would you have access, to know many skedaddled into the Restrooms?


67 posted on 05/21/2015 7:56:20 AM PDT by Cliff Dweller (No such thing as a threat... just targets)
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To: riverrunner
(S) (S) (S) three of them if you didn’t understand the first two.

We are supposed to believe that 200 peace loving bike riders were just out for a nice sunday lunch when a heavely armed and well trained police assualt team with automatic weapons ambushed them and were only able to kill 9. If that is the case, the police probably need to get better weapons and/or better training. Given the circumstances outlined, I would expect at least a 40 to 60 percent kill ratio.

I agree with you riverrunner.

68 posted on 05/21/2015 8:00:58 AM PDT by etcb
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To: Cliff Dweller

“You referenced Security Video from the Twin Peaks Restaurant.. Has that been released? I have not heard of that...(not that I know everything.. just have seen no reference to it anywhere); therefore, how would you have access, to know many skedaddled into the Restrooms?”

google “waco shooting video”


69 posted on 05/21/2015 8:01:32 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: etcb
"We are supposed to believe that 200 peace loving bike riders were just out for a nice sunday lunch when a heavely armed and well trained police assualt team with automatic weapons ambushed them and were only able to kill 9. " We are supposed to believe that 200 peace loving 2nd amendment Christian bike riders were just out for a nice sunday lunch when a heavely armed and well trained police assualt team with automatic weapons ambushed them and were only able to kill 9.
70 posted on 05/21/2015 8:03:40 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
How many of the nine dead and 20+ wounded were brandishing guns?

Where is the video tape? Have the police confiscated it?

WPSD Local 6

3:45 p.m. (CDT)

Security camera video reviewed by The Associated Press shows that as gunfire broke out in the parking lot of a Texas restaurant, dozens of bikers ran for cover inside and tried to guide others to safety.

The video suggests the Sunday gunfight that left nine dead was contained almost entirely outside the restaurant, besides one gunshot fired by a biker on the patio who

On the patio, bikers are seen ducking under the tables and trying to run inside. At least three people were seen holding handguns. One biker is seen running with blood on his face, hands and torso.

The AP was shown the video by representatives of the Twin Peaks restaurant franchise. They have not released the video, citing the ongoing police investigation.


71 posted on 05/21/2015 8:08:05 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“From the article: “The COC is a way to let others know about upcoming legislation, events & rides as well as discuss Patch issues. “

Oh. Are the COC’s run by the 1%’ers?


72 posted on 05/21/2015 8:09:07 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
hmmm. OK to shoot black rioters dead but not white MC gangstas?

Who said that? I've not heard anyone on this thread say that.

Certainly the authorities treated black rioters with kid gloves. They were allowed to arson and loot to their hearts content, none were shot, dead or otherwise that I recall.

And that rioting lasted for days and covered many square miles of a city.

Here 100 bikers get into some sort of fight and the police, from pre-set enfilade, open fire on them.

My take: a little more force, or show of force, should have been used to protect the innocent property owners in Ferguson, a lot less force might have been used by the various police agencies in Waco to de-escalate without massive loss of life.

However, I would agree that brandishing a pistol in a parking lot in the middle of a biker gang brawl does make you a legitimate target for police fire. From the AP report above it seems like there was a little bit of that going on.

Brandishing a knife or chain probably doesn't require a police sharp-shooter with a scoped rifle to take you out from across a parking lot, particularly if you are just threatening other similarly equiped bikers.

73 posted on 05/21/2015 8:16:38 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: TexasGator
I've been seeing our full-auto replies all over these threads.

Comments such as “these gangs always fight at all events” is simply hyperbole that is both untruthful and unsubstantiated, with the intent to paint the LEO picture you desire.
It's entirely reasonable for a freeper to have asked you if you're LEO with your narrow and antagonistic comments. And your “alinski” snide reply hints at either a thin skin, an angry disposition, or a LEO overlord mindset.

It's almost as if you have a propaganda agenda here and my question is who's payroll are you on to sit here during business hours to spread your flames?

You're using inflammatory language and hyperbole.
“Gangs”...really...the Christian Motorcycle Association ridingn to spread the gospel is a “gang”? WHO KNEW!?!
get serious.
I've ridden with several CMA chapters (and many other heretoremainunnamed chapters) and it is obvious you have no clue what a gang really is, no clue of the the motorcycle community in general and you have a statist LEO propaganda agenda. You may not BE leo now, but you are either in a support role, retired from, or an AP for one.
...but that's just my observation of your posts.

Carry on with your insults though. You're easy to see through. =o)

74 posted on 05/21/2015 8:20:18 AM PDT by woollyone ("The heart is deceptive above all things and beyond cure...who can understand it?")
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To: TexasGator

The Coalition of Clubs? I doubt it, not any more than ABATE. People from all walks of life who ride participate, including independents.


75 posted on 05/21/2015 8:21:40 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: woollyone

“Comments such as “these gangs always fight at all events” is simply hyperbole that is both untruthful and unsubstantiated, with the intent to paint the LEO picture you desire.”

I provided a link to the quote from a waitress at Twin Peaks.


76 posted on 05/21/2015 8:22:18 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Smokin' Joe

“The Coalition of Clubs? I doubt it, not any more than ABATE. People from all walks of life who ride participate, including independents.”

http://www.rcvsmc.net/id30.html


77 posted on 05/21/2015 8:23:32 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: woollyone

Me: By the statements made by the waitresses.

You: I’ve been seeing our full-auto replies all over these threads.

?????????


78 posted on 05/21/2015 8:26:06 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

So, what’s your point?


79 posted on 05/21/2015 8:27:38 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“The Coalition of Clubs? I doubt it, not any more than ABATE. People from all walks of life who ride participate, including independents.”


In most if not all areas, all MCs/RCs are approved by their local CoCs and in essence by their local power clubs (which are normally 1%ers) We have plenty of random clubs over at our club house for parties and such.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Harley/comments/1u943h/new_year_new_ama_i_am_a_1er_outlaw_biker_ask_me/


80 posted on 05/21/2015 8:27:57 AM PDT by TexasGator
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