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ISIS seizes large weapons arsenal abandoned by Iraqi Army in Ramadi says US Department of Defense
IraqiNews ^ | 5-20-2015 | Abdelhak Mamoun

Posted on 05/20/2015 1:28:26 PM PDT by tcrlaf

The US Department of Defense “Pentagon” accused the Iraqi army of leaving behind large quantities of weapons and ammunition when it pulled out of the city of Ramadi on Sunday. The weapons, which have been seized by ISIS, include tanks, armored vehicles and heavy guns.

After the fall of the city of Mosul at the hands of ISIS last June, the latter have seized massive amounts of American weapons and sophisticated gear left by the Iraqi army. After this date ISIS became stronger; it doubled its strength and its fighters became roaming by “Humvee” vehicles and American tanks and they sent a large portion of these weapons to ISIS elements in Syria as well.

What happened in Mosul is repeated now in Ramadi, according to the US Department of Defense. The Pentagon published a statement in which it accused the Iraqi army that it left behind, during its withdrawal from Ramadi, six tanks mostly usable, and a similar number of heavy guns, along with dozens of personnel carriers, and nearly 100 “Humvee” armored vehicles, in addition to unknown quantities of medium and heavy ammunition.

(Excerpt) Read more at iraqinews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Syria
KEYWORDS: anbar; civilwar; iran; iraq; isis; kurdistan; ramadi; syria
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To: Signalman
Vietnam Part II. Although at least the ARVNS put up a good fight for a few years before they folded.

Yes they did. The reason they ultimately folded is because the Democrat Congress refused to live up our treaty and supply them with ammo when the chips were down. You can't fight a heavily armed enemy who has massive supplies, tanks, and heavy artillery if you have nothing left to shoot.

In this case it appears the Iraqis were nowhere as good soldiers as the Vietnamese. Obama pulled out our troops before the Iraqis were even ready to take over the fight but we've supplied them with lots of expensive and potent modern arms which they leave in the field to flee from ISIS.

Now ISIS owns a premium quality arsenal courtesy of the US taxpayers and Iran owns what is left.

61 posted on 05/20/2015 2:42:46 PM PDT by Gritty (The more we submit to violent jihadi intimidation, the more we are going to get-Robert Spencer)
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To: MaxMax
I don't think so. I think the president welcomes the advance of ISIS

BTW, are these the children we are sparing from air strikes? Looks like they are lost already.

62 posted on 05/20/2015 2:49:13 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Another success for the stupidest man in Presidential history.

I beg to differ. He is succeeding brilliantly in destroying America around the world and in our own country. Just because we don't like his "total transformation of America" doesn't mean what is happening to us and our allies is because of some weird stupidity on his part. On the contrary. It is well planned and effectively executed.

He is also running rings around the hapless GOP but that doesn't take much effort or brains to do so it is no big deal. You want "stupid"?... talk about the Washington GOP. They mainstreamed the concept.

63 posted on 05/20/2015 2:52:27 PM PDT by Gritty (The more we submit to violent jihadi intimidation, the more we are going to get-Robert Spencer)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I refuse to believe that is a real picture. (even though I know it is real)


64 posted on 05/20/2015 2:52:46 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va; Former Proud Canadian

Liberal response:

“ISIS is just teaching da yutes biology, doncha know!”


65 posted on 05/20/2015 3:00:02 PM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: tcrlaf

LOOOKS like we will have to have remotely controlled self destruct devices implanted in our foreign aid weaponry.

Actually might be a great idea, like .... Trojan horses.


66 posted on 05/20/2015 3:12:48 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: tcrlaf

This pizzes me off to no end. Utter incompetence by these fools in the Bammy Administration.


67 posted on 05/20/2015 3:15:19 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Signalman
Vietnam Part II. Although at least the ARVNS put up a good fight for a few years before they folded.

They were up against a heavy conventional force supplied by the Russians. The Iraqis are fighting a bunch of ragtag jihadists. Some Israeli bigwig cracked a joke about the secret behind Israel's military successes - fighting Arabs.

68 posted on 05/20/2015 3:37:38 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: tcrlaf

You mean to tell me we can watch the fireworks and movements by sat. and drone, but can’t take out a depot BEFORE the enemy takes control?


69 posted on 05/20/2015 3:53:10 PM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Vince Ferrer
Where were our drones?

Iran?

70 posted on 05/20/2015 4:06:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (STONE COLD ZOMBIE SCOURGE)
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To: tcrlaf

I wouldn’t be surprised if some in the Iraqi “Army” are found to be in collusion with ISIS, what with all the equipment being left.


71 posted on 05/20/2015 5:19:22 PM PDT by ScottinVA (The election of Obama was a hate crime.)
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To: treetopsandroofs
"I can’t for the life of me figure out why we do not immediately send in air strikes to destroy all the equipment left behind. It’s warfare 101.’"

I'm sure they've parked it all in schools and next to apartment buildings, this is the basic strategy of all anti-western forces in the middle east and you know what? It works. Every time.

72 posted on 05/20/2015 6:34:59 PM PDT by cookcounty ("I was a Democrat until I learned to count" --Maine Gov. Paul LePage)
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To: BBell
I can’t for the life of me figure out why we do not immediately send in air strikes to destroy all the equipment left behind. It’s warfare 101.

1. Because liberals have a basic animus against the God of Scripture, which requires obedience for rewards, while showing mercy to the disobedient, not making it a right. And since Islam is in rebellion against God, and whom they see as unfairly making rules and punishing disobedience, then they see Islam as victims and allies in their war against God./

2. Because liberals have a basic animus against the reality that man is basically sinful, and thus such things as child spanking to wars sometimes are necessary. Instead, what would be called sinful behavior is made to be excusable due to conditions beyond their control, and are not to be punished, as it is likely the fault of George Bush, or someone who believed in evil vs good.

Therefore when such an entity as ISIS manifest depravity, the liberal is paralyzed: if they are treated as the danger they are then they are admitting man is evil, and such must be punished. As political pressures demand they due something, temporary or small scale actions are taken while they hope it will all go away as a bad dream. For seeing as their political messiah has arrived, the constant bloody historical reminders of the depravity of man which the liberal minds finds so uncomfortable in his delusional fantasies has become a thing of the past. All men are of good will, or are simply confused misunderstood adolescents who will become peace-loving abortion and homosexual rights supporters . under the enlightened counsel of liberal elites, and as America the bully lays down her weapons and gives money to them.

3. The admin seeks to indirectly fund Islam by funding groups which join ISIS or by letting others whom America funded loose their battles with ISIS and leave American equipment and $upplies behind.

73 posted on 05/20/2015 6:45:20 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: tcrlaf

I think this was the plan all along.

Arm ISIS but do not help the Kurds defend themselves. The picture is becoming very clear.


74 posted on 05/20/2015 6:58:17 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: BBell

> It’s warfare 101<

So is destroying supply routes. But they’re driving up and down the highway back and forth from Syria in convoys of Toyota’s.


75 posted on 05/20/2015 8:10:32 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: tcrlaf

I wish they would give weaponry to the Iraqi Kurds instead. I bet they wouldn’t leave them for ISIS. In fact, the Kurds would probably kick ISIS out of Ramadi.


76 posted on 05/20/2015 10:56:03 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Gritty
I beg to differ. He is succeeding brilliantly in destroying America around the world and in our own country. Just because we don't like his "total transformation of America" doesn't mean what is happening to us and our allies is because of some weird stupidity on his part. On the contrary. It is well planned and effectively executed.

No. The man is a stupid imbecile. Nothing he does is "Well Planned", it is always the result of him careening from one ill-thought out blunder to another.

Yes he hates America, and yes he would screw us if he could, but do not mistake utter idiocy for a master plan. No, idiocy can do the job just fine, and is.

He is also running rings around the hapless GOP but that doesn't take much effort or brains to do so it is no big deal. You want "stupid"?... talk about the Washington GOP. They mainstreamed the concept.

No he isn't. It is the Liberal Media doing that. Obama is just a ventriloquist dummy, and I do mean dummy. Without their power to cover up his blunders and attack his enemies, he would be a big zero. He would be a nothing, just as he deserves to be.

77 posted on 05/21/2015 6:59:58 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: tcrlaf

Am I looking at his ISIS problem correctly?

The ISIS problem represents a continuation of the Sunni-Shiite problem in Iraq, etc. It represents an unsolvable situation in its present form. We are not going to make them like each other, and we will only waste our own nation if we try. I put some blame on Bremmer for dismissing the Iraqi Army instead of bringing them into our fold as a power center. Bremmer was too busy handing out $million dollar bricks of our tax dollars to cronies.

Saddam gave preference to the Sunni minority. Shiites were the majority while the Sunnis were a dominant minority. The Shiites to a large extent welcomed their rise to power as a result of our invasion. The Sunnis resented it.

The Sunnis have historically been more of a problem with radical Islam than the Shiites. The Sunnis were a major force in Iraq that used the IEDs. The Saudis attacked us on 9-11 while being given special treatment and access to our skies, while we Americans were grounded after 9-11. So I don’t understand why we favor the Sunnis over Shiites and Iran. Before one dollar or one drop of American blood is spent in Iraq or Syria I favor letting the Iranians deal with them.

Maybe the only real solution in Iraq is dividing the nation so that the Kurds, Shiites and Sunnis have their own turf.


78 posted on 05/21/2015 8:46:14 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Free speech and the 1st A is dead when it becomes illegal to criticize illegals or any others.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
*sigh*

You think he's stupid. I think he's evil.

To quote another very famous and popular American (and please tell me, is she "stupid" or "evil"?)..., "... at this point, what difference does it make!!?"

79 posted on 05/21/2015 10:23:29 AM PDT by Gritty (The more we submit to violent jihadi intimidation, the more we are going to get-Robert Spencer)
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To: All

More tens of billion of dollars, foreign aid, given to pieceful religion groups. We USAians are so lost in the deception that USGov is trying to _fix_ something with all of this.

All of this equipment and money is going to enemies of us, our country and our way of live.

I believe this activity is not an accident. Large segments of USGov are doing this deliberately. I no longer belive they’re trying to enable infighting between these groups, it is more than that. It is generalized destabilizing and it has enabled more destabilization in MEast. Egypt figured it out. Current USGov is the problem.

Once we clearly see that a Caliphate _has_ formed and runs most of MEast, nay sayers may get it.


80 posted on 05/21/2015 10:35:51 AM PDT by veracious
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