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Officials reveal TWO Philadelphia-area trains were 'shot at' within minutes of crash
Daily Mail ^ | 12:51 EST, 17 May 2015 | Daily Mail Staff

Posted on 05/17/2015 7:39:22 PM PDT by jonatron

Federal officials this weekend revealed the train that crashed Tuesday, killing 8, was one of two struck by objects that day.
Investigators are now looking into the possibility the doomed train's windshield was struck in the moments before the crash.
Amtrak, meanwhile, has been ordered to expand speed-restriction system in area of derailment in Philadelphia.
NTSB investigators, however, said Sunday that no communication from the train indicated it had been hit by an object.

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EPTA, Southeast Pennsylvania Transportation Authority, said there's no indication the object that hit the commuter rail train is related to the Amtrak derailment.

Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter on Friday reports of an unknown projectile 'had nothing to do' with the deadly crash.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: amtrak; domesticterrorism; rail; sabotage
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To: Sarah Barracuda

maybe you go faster on the straight section and only slow down at the curves. (got hit and in shock didn’t slow down and accelerated) Acceleration rates for electric trains are pretty hefty. after all the track is mostly straight.


61 posted on 05/17/2015 10:57:08 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: wintertime

also a driver was decapitated from a flywheel coming off a tow truck on 95 in chester from the opposing lane.


62 posted on 05/17/2015 10:59:52 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: babygene

It’s fairly straight most of the way from about the zoo to the curve. past the north philly station. Read about how fast the trains can accelerate. amazing.


63 posted on 05/17/2015 11:03:32 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: Greysard

IMHO trains go fact on straight sections and only slow down on curves. If you are going straight at a curve and are maybe distracted you don’t slow down in time. he would have normally been slowing down just north of the north philly station. it’s not that far from the reported attacks. Keep in mind attacks on trains happen on any given day.


64 posted on 05/17/2015 11:09:44 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: dragnet2

Large dent with scratches. A stress crack where it is bolted to the frame. Four cracks from objects.


65 posted on 05/17/2015 11:14:39 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: kvanbrunt2

Wow! Gruesome!


66 posted on 05/17/2015 11:27:20 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: rdl6989
They have to shift the blame away from the homo who wrecked it.

Affirmative sir. Exactly what they are doing. If the engineer was a white male, Christian, heterosexual, and the circumstances were exactly the same, the scum bags in the MSM would be blaming him.

67 posted on 05/18/2015 2:56:42 AM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forever more endure.)
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To: Bryan24

Tomorrows headline: Bullets cause trains to de-rail, immediate confiscation of all guns. /s


68 posted on 05/18/2015 3:09:05 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: House Atreides

Never let a good crisis go to waste to tie it to guns and crush second amendment rights.


69 posted on 05/18/2015 3:09:45 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Greysard

I’m surprised nobody has hypothesized kids may have placed 2 pennies on the track near the curve, thereby causing the debaucle.


70 posted on 05/18/2015 3:28:14 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

You are very correct and knowledgeable of train jargon. The rails are sitting on a bed called ballast, or to the unwashed, rocks. In a crash of this sort, rock are flying everywhere in addition to kids picking them up and throwing them.

Remember how kids started being fascinated with throwing objects onto cars from freeway overpasses?

Still, the picture posted shows no signs of a bullet impact. Nothing went through. Something did impact it but there are a whole lot of rocks that were displaced when it went off the tracks, in addition to a lot of other things like structural steel catenary structures.


71 posted on 05/18/2015 3:42:46 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Leaning Right

I’ve seen a few vehicles impacted by objects that hit the windscreen. Know what happens, they stopped.


72 posted on 05/18/2015 3:57:45 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: jonatron

Once again - a potential issue but irrelevant to the crash.


73 posted on 05/18/2015 4:14:23 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: jonatron

The continuing cover for the mental disease called Queer Derangement Syndrome (QDS).


74 posted on 05/18/2015 4:21:34 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

I’m surprised they haven’t said a UFO was sitting on the tracks and he attempted to run over it since he had mo time to brake so he just punched the gas


75 posted on 05/18/2015 4:40:57 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

That one is coming next.


76 posted on 05/18/2015 4:48:54 AM PDT by sport
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To: matthew fuller

> Here is an interesting article that addresses accident rates of homos.

http://www.sodahead.com/living/is-the-homosexual-life-span-shorter-than-the-population-at-large/question-1142847/

Thry will defimitely not like that article. Too musch truth in it.


77 posted on 05/18/2015 4:57:40 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jonatron

And maybe the train had underinflated tires. Geez.


78 posted on 05/18/2015 4:58:14 AM PDT by McGruff (What did Hillary know and when did she know it?)
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To: House Atreides

Doesn’t explain why he was speeding...


79 posted on 05/18/2015 4:58:17 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (‘You can avoid reality, but you can’t avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.’)
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To: kvanbrunt2

These trains don’t accelerate that fast. IIRC, someone had posted the acceleration rate for these Amtrak engines. I think it took 3 or 4 minutes to reach something near this speed (106) from a dead stop, probably at least a minute, maybe more to get there from the 70MPH limit in the section before the curve.


80 posted on 05/18/2015 5:10:35 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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