[Wiz-Nerd]

This man is calling for a two state solution which means the division of Israel. God commands that the land, His land, not be divided.

What? The pope does not read nor follow God’s commands?

[firebrand]

I agree. See comment #6. If they had translated it correctly, we might have been able to argue the point, but we got caught up in a fictitious statement.

[Mrs. Don-o]

The boundaries of the State of Israel today do not match boundaries alluded to or prescribed in the Bible. So your objection is already nullified in that "Territorial Israel," "Eretz Israel" as defined in the Bible has not existed for millennia.

Not only that, but Israel is supposed to be a Messianic monarchy, not a social democracy/secular state. So it is dubious as to whether the State of Israel is the true Israel of the Prophets.

At least, that's what a number of the most religiously observant Jews believe: you can read more about that Here (Haredi Jews and Zionism)

I am in general a supporter of Israel as a nation and I am not aligned with any of the sides of this religious dispute. So if you care to respond, don't refute my position (I don't have one) but deal with the Haredi Rabbis.

[A CA Guy]

Half the time I wonder if this Pope is an Antichrist doing work for the wrong side.

[daniel1212]

What? The pope does not read nor follow God’s commands?

He may read them, but for Rome

"Catholic doctrine, as authoritatively proposed by the Church, should be held as the supreme law..all interpretation is foolish and false which either makes the sacred writers disagree one with another, or is opposed to the doctrine of the Church." (Providentissimus Deus;http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_18111893_providentissimus-deus_en.html)

The specious Roman reasoning behind such is that since (according to her) God is the author of both Scripture and the doctrines of Rome, then there can be contradictions.

For Rome has presumed to infallibly declare she is and will be perpetually infallible whenever she speaks in accordance with her infallibly defined (scope and subject-based) formula, which renders her declaration that she is infallible, to be infallible, as well as all else she accordingly declares.

Let us know if any want to get off the merry-go-round.