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1 posted on 05/15/2015 11:47:59 AM PDT by SJackson
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It is hard to take the Vatican seriously these days on so many fronts.


2 posted on 05/15/2015 11:49:44 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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Palestinians’ failure to cooperate has resulted in repeated delays in national elections. Mahmoud Abbas, president of the Palestinian Authority, has just entered his 11th year of a four-year term. Parliamentary elections have not been held in the West Bank and Gaza since 2006. So even if there were such as thing as a “State of Palestine,” this supposed “state” has no legitimate political leadership .

Last Presidential election was in January, 2005. If Abbas can last a couple more years he'll equal the the Reich's electionless run from March 1933 to April/May 1945. What's the value of an agreement with a "state" without a legitimate government. Unmentioned in the article, the UN recognizes the PLO as the legitimate representative of the palestinian people, not the PA, which begs the question of who any agreement would be binding on.

3 posted on 05/15/2015 11:54:17 AM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes)
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Could this be the first mussie pope? Just asking. He is so anti-Israel.


4 posted on 05/15/2015 11:55:21 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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More importantly, they must put in place institutions such as a free press, government transparency, protection of human rights, an independent judiciary and religious freedom for all – including Christians.

(Palestinians means Muslims.)
When I read naive statements like the above, on how Muslims should be like us Infidels, I get discouraged.

5 posted on 05/15/2015 11:56:34 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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The Church is being led to Perdition.

keep the faith and pray for the Church.


6 posted on 05/15/2015 12:02:18 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (“When the righteous are in authority, people rejoice; but when a wicked man rules, people groan)
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(*groan*) Just shoot me now...

Forgive me... but this decision by the Vatican is utter, complete, incomprehensible, blithering idiocy. This sort of insanity is NOT helping us faithful Catholics fight the good fight. (Nor is any insane blather about “global warming”, or any other mythical nonsense which is utterly beyond the purview of the Vatican, anyway.) Just saying.


7 posted on 05/15/2015 12:03:30 PM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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Why is this reversion to type any kind of news? There were a few years where the Vatican either repented of anti-semitism or veiled it. But historically, haven’t they been on the other side? Somebody, anybody, demonstrate how the Vatican has always been pro-Jewish and stamped out anti-semitism wherever it occurred. Pope John Paul excepted, of course.


9 posted on 05/15/2015 12:25:21 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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10 posted on 05/15/2015 1:03:17 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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Im not Catholic but have heard from Catholic friends/family of their concerns about this pope. His mental condition.....perhaps.


12 posted on 05/15/2015 2:01:39 PM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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Sickening.

Worst Pope ever? Or just worst modern Pope?


13 posted on 05/15/2015 2:29:05 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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For those who are still in the dark, this is status quo for the Catholic church hierarchy.

They have always been anti-Israel and have gone to great lengths to try and destroy the Jewish people throughout the ages and now the Nation of Israel.

14 posted on 05/15/2015 4:36:11 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Whoever is offended can just get the heck out of my country!)
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Opposition to Israel is the one issue on which both the extreme Left and the extreme Right of the Catholic Church agree.

American chrstians naively seem to think that chrstian Zionism is traditional, orthodox, conservative chrstian doctrine. It is not. Only American-style Fundamentalist Protestants and no other chrstian group whatsoever supports the ingathering of Jews in the Holy Land as something willed by G-d and desirable.

I invite all FReepers to investigate thoroughly all traditionalist Catholic (or for that matter, Orthodox) web sites representing people with whom American conservatives share positions on most issues--except for this one. Look at Tradition in Action, Chrstian Order, Catholic Truth Scotland, The Remnant, Gerry Metatics(sp?), Robert Sungenis--any of these web sites. They are not only anti-Israel (their critique of Israel's treatment of the "palestinians" sounds exactly like that of the Progressive Labor Party) but in many cases actually believe all the evil in the world is the result of a vast "Jewish conspiracy," and even that the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" are authentic!

American chrstians need to understand that on this issue they deviate from all forms of traditional chrstianity, including Classical Protestantism. It's time to face some unpleasant facts and make a decision.

15 posted on 05/15/2015 4:45:52 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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