We should believe what the left-wingers tell us

Everyone knows that the self-styled progressives and others on the Left are inveterate liars. Not a day goes by that some left-wing activist or talking head won't be found on our television screens or in our newspapers uttering some falsehood designed to make the leftist agenda more palatable to the masses or to cover up the disasters being caused by it. They lie to us, and they lie to each other as well. The lower ranking "progressives," the "foot soldiers" out there spreading the disinformation at a demotic level, typically do so without even understanding that the news they're spreading from the higher ranking progressive sources is all purposefully designed to mislead people.

For example, I have one individual (apparently a fan, he can't help himself!) who will occasionally email me, typically with the latest monthly job numbers report (put out by the Obama administration) accompanied by the new, artificially low U6 unemployment number (calculated by the Obama administration). He'll be all excited because these numbers "prove" that Obama's really just doing a bang-up job on the economy. Of course, he ignores (or more probably, doesn't know) the fact that the U6 unemployment number is a completely ridiculous measure of actual unemployment, specifically because it excludes all those who are no longer in the workforce, as the government defines it – which is that a person is not actively seeking employment, among other things. So you can have a person who has been out of a job for so long that they've just given up looking anymore, and violá, they're not in the workforce, and therefore don't count as "unemployed" by the government's calculation. The government has rigged its numbers so that huge numbers of the unemployed in America don't count against the unemployment number. Neat, hunh? The more realistic number for assessing employment is the workforce participation percentage – which is at the lowest it has been since women started participating in the workforce in large numbers beginning back in the 1970s.

And then, of course, are all the other factors that my correspondent doesn't take into account, such as the fact that most of the new jobs gained are low-paying part-time work (specifically so employers can avoid coming under ObamaCare regulations), and that the large share of them are going to immigrants, not American citizens (some have even said that ALL net new job growth since 2000 has effectively gone to immigrants, not to Americans).

My correspondent spreads the disinformation, however, because it is convenient to his ideological side, even though it is all specious nonsense. Now, he is low enough on the progressive totem pole that he is not an originator of falsehood – he's just one who spreads it around like manure on a cornfield. But that disinformation has to start from somewhere, and that somewhere is within the bowels of the Democrat/mainstream media/left-wing think tank complex.

So from the standpoint of their day-by-day agitprop, no, we should not listen to the Left or take their assertions seriously. To a man, they either don't know what they're talking about, or else they do but are purposefully lying about it because the truth is inconvenient to their agenda.

When it comes to their long-term goals, to their overarching agenda and plans they have for America, we on the Right really, really need to start listening to what the Left says and take them seriously. The Left has not been shy about cluing us in to what they want to do. In fact, the lefties telegraph their punches more than Glass Joe from that Punch Out! game we used to play on the Nintendo. The problem has been that far too many people on the Right have failed to heed the warnings or to give credit to what the Left has been telling us they're going to do.

Much of the reason for this failure is simply due to the fact that, for a normal person of reasonable intelligence and a decent amount of common sense, the left-wing agenda seems like so much ridiculous nonsense. We approach the Left much the same way we would a small child who confidently asserts that he's going to use some cardboard boxes to build a rocket ship and fly to the moon. We think that there is no way that any of these idiotic ideas will ever get off the ground.

Case in point, take gay "marriage." Even ten years ago, nobody – and I mean nobody – who was anywhere near the mainstream of political discourse in America thought that we'd see gay marriage become an actual thing, forced off onto unwilling states and an unwilling populace. Even prominent Democrats like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ran away from the issue. Yet, here we are today. How did we get here? Those of us on the Right, who all saw the Left laying the groundwork for it and putting their judges into position and getting their lawsuits geared up, did not do anything about it in a way that would actually and effectively strangle it in the cradle. All it would have taken back in 2005 when the Republicans controlled Congress and had a reasonably socially conservative President in office was to remove marriage from the competency and jurisdiction of the federal courts per Congress' implied power in Article III, Section 2. No need for DOMA, no need for a federal marriage amendment – simply bar the courts from appellate jurisdiction over state marriage laws in toto. Indeed, Congress could still attempt to do so even now, though the likelihood of getting Obama to sign the bill is nil, and the likelihood of finding enough Republicans with backbones to make the attempt is almost as small.

Because conservatives sat back and smugly thought that it would never happen, they failed to take the steps that could have prevented it long ago.

Again, I want to emphasize that we should have seen it coming. When left-wing professors and left-wing politicians and left-wing mediaites and left-wing activists start chirruping about something, it means that the issue has made it onto their agenda, and they WILL be pushing it and pushing it until it happens – no matter how preposterous or impossible the object of their efforts may initially seem. They're telegraphing what they're going to do as they begin to rally their troops to start pushing for it.

This is why traditionalists, conservatives, and liberty lovers better take it seriously when we see supposed dingbats in academia or the media start pushing to normalized pedophilia, outlaw homeschooling, take children away from parents who take them to church, or any other number of "outlandish" goals. They're not just saying these things to get attention or for the shock value. They're saying them because that's where they're going to go. That's what's next on their list. Ignore it or laugh at your peril. You might just wake up one day to find the police powers of the state being used to steal your children to hand them over to the custody of the perverts.

This is why we CANNOT under any circumstances give up our guns. When Bill Ayers says that 25 million of the wrong kind of Americans (i.e. folks like you and me) will have to be liquidated to bring about the progressive utopia people like him envision for America, I take him seriously. I don't necessarily think he'd be able to do it, but I definitely think he'd like to give it a try.

It's the same way with the Islamic jihadists like ISIS (who are, let's face, just another wing of the progressive/homosexualist/anti-American coalition). When they say they're going to do something, we ought to believe them and prepare for it. The sort of insouciance we're seeing on the part of American law enforcement and in the intelligence community with respect to Islamic terrorism is pretty frightening. When the FBI seems more concerned about Tea Partiers and constitutionalists than they do about Islamic wackos who straight up say that they're going to commit terrorist acts on American soil in specifically designated states, you know there is something seriously wrong. But these elements of our government have become so paralyzed by fear of not being politically correct that they're essentially good for nothing anymore. And if We the People don't step up and fill the gap to provide our own security using our God-given right to keep and bear arms for our own self-defense, then a lot of Americans are going to die because people weren't taking these Islamofascists seriously.

The crux of the matter is this: when bad people say they're going to do bad things, then we'd better pay attention and be prepared for it. Whether they're gays continuing to force more of their radical anti-freedom agenda off onto us or radical Muslims pushing for shari'a law in our communities, we'd better get serious about organizing ourselves to oppose them.

Don’t forget the environmentalists that say we need to reduce the global population to roughly 100 million for Gaia’s sake.

If we weren’t so well armed, they might make good on that wish.

Many here are actively doing the Left’s job for them - they have fallen into the Left’s habit and philosophy as stated by Rush; it’s not the facts of the matter, it’s the seriousness of the charge. They will be the death of us and then whine that nothing ever changes....

Well then, ya dummies, clean out your party leadership and make it representative of the rank and file, because right now it’s like the GOP is playing chicken with its own voters in trying to find the most objectionable leftist candidates people will still vote for.

quote “All it would have taken back in 2005 when the Republicans controlled Congress and had a reasonably socially conservative President in office was to remove marriage from the competency and jurisdiction of the federal courts per Congress’ implied power in Article III, Section 2. No need for DOMA, no need for a federal marriage amendment – simply bar the courts from appellate jurisdiction over state marriage laws in toto. “

Nope, never would have happened. It was already too late then. The left already had enough vote to block any such vote at that point, they were just lying about their true beliefs to get elected. Just like most politicians lie about how they really feel about abortion. RINO’s say they are against abortion, but it's all for show to get votes. Most secretly support it and if pushed came to shove would vote against any measure (likely to pass) that would outlaw it.

Yes, we SHOULD believe what the Leftists tell us.

After all, they’ve only been telling us since the 1960’s that they want us dead.

Agreed. One of the most insidious negatives on FR is incipient cynicism. The “It’s too late to do anything about it” crowd pops it ugly head up on nearly every thread. If their minds are so numbed as to be incapable of thinking their way out of the paper bag they are stuck in they should shut up and listen, not babble their incoherent fear.

Yes - they should shut up and listen to folks yell at them for not supporting the latest milquetoast!

Most of the people yelling for people to listen aren’t saying anything that is helpful.

More of the same. Where there is open dialogue the opportunity for truth is present. Not all ideas are tinged with genius but genius never comes without the struggle of working through bad ideas. The conversation is the key. Negative nellies want to shut down all discourse. They believe themselves too wise to think.

Yashcheritsiy :" Start paying attention, folks!"

Right - and report the news the way we want.
Faux pews had changed its brand to include more liberal views and reporting , but it is still being chastized by the administration since it doesn't cow-tow to the libs.
Do you remember the President's last open press conference, where the questions weren't already scripted ? ..- Yeah , me neither !
Are you getting all the administrations Buzzafeed and Utube news releases which are all carefully scripted and edited ?
"The most Transparent Administration Ever " ended with the acknowledgement that ".. I can be very flexible" ... because a Narcssist never can be fleible.
It's all a matter of "CONTROL"!... including the news and reporters .
That is why the FCC wants to take over the internet and news content and conversation on the AM talk radio circuit.
These are the only free information outlets left vailable to Conservative values.

I’m trying to point out that you, amongst others, are simply yelling at people who do not see a civil solution, rather than trying to convince them there is one.

Your sense of moral superiority (as portrayed in your words - I will not claim to know you as a person) undermines your proclaimed goal of nurturing belief in a civil solution.

“Start paying attention folks!”

You can bet they won’t and you can bet they’ll vote for lying scu*bags and accuse everyone else of being lying scu*bags.

(The adolescent psychotics in the population are becoming the proletarian dictators.)

IMHO

Without realizing it you are part of the problem. I have no sense of moral superiority. The voices blathering negativity are not interested in being cajoled into a reasonable position. They are simply stuck on stupid. If this seems unnecessarily huffy it probably is. “The sky is falling” is not a position. It is a surrender. Civil or not, my concern is for solutions, not surrender.

Without realizing it you are part of the problem.

By stating that yelling (being negative) at people for being negative without offering alternatives is counterproductive, I become part of the problem.

You have interesting conclusions, FRiend.

Yes. All the liberalness is due to conservatives. Who are these ‘conservatives’ again? Karl Rove, Dicky Morris and their ilk? Those conservatives?

You are using the precise argument of the left. You blame those who rail against wrongdoers. This is the excuse given by the rioters. They are thugs but want to be called victims of the white man’s oppression.

Louis, you and I both read the Sultan’s articles. One thing I notice is, there is a difference between the naysaying you mention, and the realistic assessment of the situation - which the Green Machine trained me to do.

And the realistic assessment is, we are quite past the event horizon as far as civil redress in this country is concerned; we are rapidly approaching conflict resolutino “by other means”, as it were.

While I would LOVE to see civil redress occur, I hold out very little hope, given the near-total control of the process by the opposition.

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