Posted on 05/09/2015 11:42:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
If the government does not like the way that you are raising your kids, they will come in and grab them at any time without giving any warning whatsoever. Of course this is completely and totally unlawful, but it has been happening all over America. The most recent example of this that has made national headlines is particularly egregious. Joe and Nicole Naugler of Breckinridge County, Kentucky just had their 10 children brutally ripped away from them just because the government does not approve of how they are living their lives and how they are educating their young ones. Lets be very clear about this Joe and Nicole had done nothing to violate the law whatsoever. All of their kids were happy, healthy and very intelligent. But because the control freaks running things in Kentucky got wind of their off the grid lifestyle, they have now had all of their children unlawfully abducted from them.
A lot of my readers also lead off the grid lifestyles similar to what the Nauglers had been enjoying. The Nauglers own 26 acres in a remote area of Breckinridge County, and their family has been described as extremely happy. But despite never giving them a single warning or a single indication that anything was ever wrong, Kentucky police raided their home on May 6th. The following is how the raid was described on a website dedicated to this case
On May 6th, 2015, Breckinridge Co. Sheriffs officers came to their home, acting on an anonymous tip, and entered their property and home without a warrant and without probable cause. Nicole was at home with the two oldest children, while Joe was away with the others. When the officers left the home, they attempted to block the access road to the family property. Nicole and the two boys got in their car to leave the family property. The got only a short way down the road before the officers pulled Nicole over.
During this stop, sheriffs deputies took their two oldest boys from Nicoles custody, providing her no justification or documentation to support their action. Nicole was able to contact Joe briefly by telephone, but only for a short period of time, because she needed to use her phone to record the events.
At that point, Nicole had been taken into custody for disorderly conduct (for not passively allowing the Sheriff to take her boys) and resisting arrest. Even though she is 5 months pregnant, she was slammed belly first into the cop car and bruised and scraped on both arms.
And people wonder why there is such an uproar about police brutality in this country
How in the world can a police officer ever justify treating a pregnant woman like that? The police officer that treated Nicole like that should immediately resign. Talk about an utter disgrace. You do not ever treat a pregnant woman like that.
But this is America, where we are turning a little bit more into Nazi Germany every single day.
You can listen to audio of Nicoles shocking arrest right here.
When Joe arrived on the scene, the police continued to act like Gestapo thugs
Joe was able to arrange transportation to meet his wife where the stop had taken place. Joe attempted to get out of the car to speak with the officers and his wife, and to recover the vehicle Nicole had been driving. The Sheriff, with his hand on his sidearm, ordered Joe back into the car. Joe complied with that request. The sheriff informed Joe that he had every intention of making this as difficult as possible for them and that their car would be impounded, despite the fact that Joe was there onsite to recover it.
A friend, who had driven Joe to the location, got out of the car to speak with the Sheriff. She was able to convince the Sheriff to let Joe recover the vehicle. Joe also recovered Nicoles cell phone, which had been recording audio the entire time.
The Sheriff ordered Joe to turn the remaining eight children over to Breckinridge County Sheriffs deputies by 10:00 a.m., and threatened him with felony charges if he does not comply.
Joe did comply with the Sheriffs order, and now their kids have been scattered by CPS among families in four separate counties
As of now, officials have placed the children with four families in four different counties, and as of Friday morning, the parents had not spoken with them. The four families are families that CPS chose families the Nauglers dont know.
Shame on you Kentucky. You are supposed to be better than this.
One of the most disturbing elements of this entire incident is that Child Protective Services never visited the Nauglers a single time and never gave them any indication that anything was wrong. The following comes from Off The Grid News
Child Protective Services never visited the home, said Ellsworth, who believes the arrests took place because of the parents choice of unschooling for their children, and because of their simple way of life that some would call backwards. The familys Facebook page calls it a back to basics life. They have a garden and raise animals. Deputies apparently were concerned about whether the childrens needs were being met, but friends say they personally have no concerns and that the children are blessed to have Joe and Nicole as their parents.
How would you like it if government thugs raided your home and took your children away because they considered your lifestyle to be backwards?
What in the world is happening to this country?
Like I said earlier, what happened to the Nauglers is not an isolated incident. These kinds of things are happening all over the nation. For example, just consider the abuse that one homeschooling family received in New Jersey
Meanwhile, in New Jersey, a WND report highlights how parents were interrogated by a CPS caseworker who questioned Christopher Zimmer and his wife Nicole, on everything from their sons homeschool education to questions about vaccines and guns in the house.
Michelle Marchese aggressively demanded to enter the property after asserting Christopher Zimmer Jr. was not getting a proper education. Police subsequently arrived and allowed Marchese to enter the home before conducting a warrantless search.
The Zimmers are now suing the CPS for $60 million in a case before the U.S. District Court in Trenton.
I very much hope that the Zimmers win that case and collect a huge monetary award.
All over the nation, CPS officials are running around acting like little dictators and trampling the law. They need the courts to send them a clear message that this is a nation where the rule of law still applies.
If we do not stand with families like the Nauglers, control freak bureaucrats will continue to harass families that have chosen to live a basic lifestyle all over the nation. So lets stand with them and make this case viral all over the Internet.
And Kentucky, get your act together and send those kids back home. You are supposed to be so much better than this.
This is not the fisrt time that this family has had run-ins with the law, or CPS. Look up Joes previous arrest records. They have had dealings with CPS since around 2012, just in Ky alone. wonder how many other states before then as they seem to move from place to place.
I do think there’s more to this story then what’s being told....The cops got called because the father stole water from a neighbor, threatens this neighbor buy asking his child to go get my gun out of the car and then called this neighbor a c***.... thats from the stuff this family posted on their own Facebook page
That probably wouldn’t work in a civilized town like Boston or the like, but I’ll bet you odds that those kids will know what to do to survive whatever woes betide this once-great nation of ours . . . assuming the gubmint doesn’t retrain them and teach them the joys of living off the federal teat.
Everything put together in the multiple articles presented on this thread doesn’t show me one good reason for the authorities to defy the Kentucky constitution and kidnap the kids.
They don’t look like hippies to me at all. To that point; with all of the meth labs and meth addicted backwoods families in KY they go after this family who appear to be healthy and happy.
I don’t think that is the case, since it doesn’t sound like the parents were exhibitionists-on camping trips and in other close quarters, even teens will leave the group sleeping place to have sex-most of us are likely familiar with that strategy-and I’m sure there are plenty of woods there, just like most other places.
The biblical reference points out how little privacy there was at that time with a lot of people living in tents, too.
That is one of my favorite songs, by the way...
btw, no telling what they’ll become now that they are part of the Ineptocracy:
....... A system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.
I saw mention of that on one site. Ten years ago Joe was convicted for passing bad checks and for driving without registration or proof of insurance, and for failure to appear in court on those charges. I won't defend him for doing those things but if that's the worst he's done and it was ten years ago I don't see any relevance to the current situation.
That is the way I see it, too-even if the dad is an ass****, stole water, called names, etc-as long as the kids are healthy and happy, hands off, and MYOFB.
But if you look at caww’s post #74, maybe the zeal of the cops and CPS is explained-two of the kids are posing with evil GUNS-surely a hanging offense...
They always look healthy in the family photos. But no one wants to be the cop that returns the victim to Jeffrey Dahmer.
I’d be curious to know if they are on the Welfare.
Cps came to do a welfare check and she went crazy on them, if you look further this story does unfold more than what’s actually being reported.... so they arrested her and took custody of kids. I had to do quite a bit of looking for actual story. ......The parents are clearly not owning ‘their part’ in this.
Here’s a poster who claims to know the famiy who writes (take it for what it’s worth, but I’m seeing more like it):
anonymous
May 8, 2015 at 6:12 pm
These people are the worst kind imaginable. Know them well
I just sit and laugh at how they have scammed ALL of you! They are the biggest con-artists out there. They do nothing but prey off of good people, many who have just helped donate to their scam.
They are NOT un-schoolers, home-schoolers or homesteaders! They actually give home-schooling families and people who live off the grid a horrible name. Theyre kids are treated like slaves and it is sick! They claim to be Christian, yet have been kicked out of numerous churches because they break the law, lie, cheat, manipulate, and steal anyway they can. You dont have to believe me, but it is the truth!
They have stolen thousands of dollars from churches in the area. Joe bullies local Bishops, preachers, and any and all clergy-by stating he will use force on them if money isnt donated to him to pay his bills. He has also threatened good christian people and their children! YES! Their children
This is the kind of sick individual you all are donating money too. He has been arrested numerous times and has been reported to CPS numerous times by hard-working concerned citizens, not a meth using facebook user as they would like you to believe.
The children appear brain-washed and abused and have absolutely no social skills what so ever. You can contradict me all you wish, but we have experienced this family first-hand. I also know people who have been in the home and what you would experience upon entering is sickening! It was stated that there was human feces everywhere!
.... The children looked as if they hadnt been bathed in months with feces all over them. No water or beds for them to sleep in. She will post a picture on fb of a bed and spin it a thousand different ways to make you think the children have beds. She grooms dogs because he will not work! When you have ten kids you work to support your family! I dont care what or where you live a condo or in the wilderness!
They manipulate social media to their advantage and I listened to that audio and that Sheriff was doing his JOB!!! She resisted arrest and put on a big show for everyone! THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME. They go into a grocery store and steal and pretend to fall, just so they can get money from the owners. They are hypocrites who judge everyone else in society who doesnt live the way they do. They also posted something once that all the men and women who fight for this country, deserve to die these are two sick and twisted individuals. This time they went too far.
The best thing that could ever happen is their children are taken away. It is my sincere hope they are not returned. I pray for that Sheriffs Dept, that they will be able to prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. This is the truth and I could care less who replies and donates to them. They will squander all your money away and be back in the very same position months from now.
No, it was an accusation posted by someone else on their Facebook page.
I don't agree with that. Abused kids rarely look happy even if they appear to be smiling. These kids look genuinely happy in all the pics of them.
You do realize that half the world currently lives that way?
And you do realize how many pre-adolescent children are exposed to hardcore porn on the Interwebs these day?
What's worse? Children learning about sex from prostitution-porn, or children being aware that their parents make love?
How do you look into a story beyond what has been reported? I need that talent! I want to use it on some politicians. ;-)
That’s all well and good; but deal with those charges on their own self. That’s what she said.
That is an excellent point. Take for example the conditions many black families are living in on the south side of Chicago. Makes the conditions this KY family is living in look like luxury.
And guess who put them there?
Grim proving ground for Obama's housing policy"About 99 of the units are vacant, many rendered uninhabitable by unfixed problems, such as collapsed roofs and fire damage. Mice scamper through the halls. Battered mailboxes hang open. Sewage backs up into kitchen sinks. In 2006, federal inspectors graded the condition of the complex an 11 on a 100-point scale - a score so bad the buildings now face demolition."
Today it is for home schooling, tomorrow it will be for not taking the common core tests, the next day sending your kids to private school, the day after that for simply being in the wrong political party.
That line if from the Daily Mail article and is apparently supposed to reflect badly on the Nauglers. Perhaps those Limey reporters should survey some farms and give us a percentage of how many farm houses exceed the square footage of out buildings devoted to livestock.
I don't know what's really happening at the Naugler homestead but I see a strong bias in the reporting against them that comes from a meterosexual city boy nanny state POV. I don't like those kind of people.
Because the 'local education officials' are doing such a good job of it eh? Look at the stats for home schooled - that always test much higher than the public schools, where illiteracy is rampant. Sooo... why again?
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