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'You want to kill her! You want her to die! Hannity, Pamela Geller against Muslim Imam [John 16]
World Net Daily ^ | 5/7/2015 | CHERYL CHUMLEY

Posted on 05/07/2015 10:24:46 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

Sparks flew on a recent Fox News segment when host Sean Hannity put it bluntly to radical Muslim cleric Anjem Choudary – do you think Pam Geller should die? – and his response was pretty much, yes.

Geller, who hosted the “Draw Muhammad” event in Garland, Texas, has subsequently been placed on a hit list by Islamist terrorists, as reported by WND. Specifically, ISIS has called for the “slaughter” of Geller, along with those who support her.

Hannity asked Choudary for his response to the cartoon drawing event, and if he thought Geller should die. “We’re not talking about Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck,” Choudary said. “You’re talking about people who deliberately had a competition to insult the prophet … knowing full well this carries the death threat in Iran.”

Choudary never denied his support for the threat on Geller’s life, noting Islamic law states that drawing depictions of the Prophet Muhammad should be punishable by death. Hannity asked the cleric if he felt “so frail” and “insecure” in his faith that his prophet couldn’t withstand being depicted in an insulting manner, and Choudary said he had not created the rule against blasphemy.

“You want to kill her,” Hannity exclaimed. “You want her to die...”

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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To: glennaro

” Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.”

Anyone else advocate a a sudden fundamental transformation to a “sheet of glass” where Iran used to be once we get a real leader?


21 posted on 05/07/2015 11:10:56 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: arthurus
Hmmm...lets open up the Koran and see for ourselves...

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out....And fight them until there is no more Fitnah and worship is for Allah alone.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward"

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people."

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant."

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place."

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew."

Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."

Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction."

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost."

Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom."

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict. This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist."

Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success."

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here.


22 posted on 05/07/2015 11:10:57 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: glennaro

,,,I Am Spartacus!


23 posted on 05/07/2015 11:12:53 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: BulletBobCo

Practice

Practice

PRACTICE!


24 posted on 05/07/2015 11:14:23 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
“...knowing full well this carries the death threat in Iran...”

“Knowing full well that the ancient Irish people would put your head on a pike”

“Knowing full well that the Native Americans would've scalped you in 1844”

“Knowing full well that the Pharaoh would boil you in oil.”

“Knowing full well that if you lose the crayon the cat will lick the butter”

Worrying about breaking an idiotic law in Iran is pretty much a non sequitur.

25 posted on 05/07/2015 11:15:07 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: Jan_Sobieski

deliberately had a competition to insult the prophet … knowing full well this carries the death threat in Iran


Not wearing a burka has a death penalty as well.
When do you want to start enforcing that?

Being a homo is death, as well.
When are the Muzzies going to try to enforce that in America?


26 posted on 05/07/2015 11:15:51 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

” knowing full well this carries the death threat in Iran.”

This whole thing makes me want to put cartoons in every corner of America. Maybe it will make the bloodthirsty savages leave!


27 posted on 05/07/2015 11:16:15 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Pam Geller may not be a person of faith but...

Actions speak louder than words.

28 posted on 05/07/2015 11:23:39 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

choudry live on WELFARE in the UK..... heard he gave up cleaning urinals for the dole.... why doe sean put this dirtbag on his show...he has nothing to say worth listening to nor the other schreecy voiced jockey shorts too tight black muzzie clown.......spare us the absurdity....... PLEASE


29 posted on 05/07/2015 11:45:19 AM PDT by zzwhale
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To: BigCinBigD

Dang bro. (I won’t stop you or nothin’, just dang)


30 posted on 05/07/2015 11:45:27 AM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: PATRIOT1876

I agree. We should also show the planes flying into the twin towers...


31 posted on 05/07/2015 11:46:01 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Big Red Badger

Choudary would never dare come to America to spread his muzzie doctrine of murderous hatred even though we Yanks would leave his sorry @zz alone.

Choudary sees America as a land filled with heavily armed “infidels”. This isn’t Egypt and it isn’t Pakistan.

Come to think of it, our own Preezy O’Bammie thinks the same thing. Too many “infidels’, too many guns.


32 posted on 05/07/2015 11:58:17 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("I am a free man, O Muslim. There's nothing you can do about it.")
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To: BulletBobCo

LOL. It’s what I was thinking when I posted.


33 posted on 05/07/2015 12:14:06 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: hosepipe

Pamela Geller is defiant. She declared that she has no intention of cowering and intends to hold another free speech event in the near future. “This threat illustrates the savagery and barbarism of the Islamic State,” Geller told the Daily News in a statement she later posted on her website. “They want me dead for violating Sharia blasphemy laws. What remains to be seen is whether the free world will finally wake up and stand for the freedom of speech, or instead kowtow to this evil and continue to denounce me.”


34 posted on 05/07/2015 12:45:38 PM PDT by Dqban22 (h=white)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Fox News, meanwhile, reported the notion of killing those who drew the Muslim prophet was not a Quran-based principle, but rather one started by Taliban members.

I heard this this morning too. This is significant if true. There have been all these "Muslims" who are willing to kill others just for drawing Muhammed and they might not even be following their true religion! How ironic that would be for them.

Really this is something that needs to be brought into the conversation. It's a win-win really. Because if you get the Muslim to defend such a barbaric practice as ancient and true to the religion, it just exposes more of the underbelly of the beast. If it's true though, if this was indeed a manufactured "blasphemy" by the Taliban, then you instantly make fools of hundreds if not thousands who wish to murder anyone who dares draw a Muhammed cartoon.

So this claim needs to be brought into the conversation. It's a win win.

35 posted on 05/07/2015 12:54:52 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven
Ok Fox (Faux) News...lets test your theory by opening up the Koran to see for ourselves. If you are right, I will apologize. If I am right, you will say so on National Television? Ok? Oh...I thought you said your Saudi Arabian owner wanted the truth...

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out....And fight them until there is no more Fitnah and worship is for Allah alone.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward"

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people."

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant."

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place."

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew."

Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."

Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction."

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost."

Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom."

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict. This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist."

Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success."

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here.

36 posted on 05/07/2015 1:04:26 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: glennaro

Just a matter of time. The Islamic vermin shot during the attack in Texas were waiting for instructions. THANK GOD that the target wasn’t a school or mall. When that attack occurs the passion referenced in the following poem will be unleashed:

THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON
by Rudyard Kipling

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy — willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.

Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not suddenly bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.


37 posted on 05/07/2015 1:10:30 PM PDT by LeonardFMason (LanceyHoward would AGREE)
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To: FourtySeven
"There have been all these "Muslims" who are willing to kill others just for drawing Muhammed and they might not even be following their true religion!"

It apparently comes from the hadith, not the koran.

"Aniconism in Islam is a proscription in Islam against the creation of images of sentient beings. The most absolute proscription is of images of God in Islam, followed by depictions of Muhammad, and then Islamic prophets and the relatives of Muhammad, but the depiction of all humans and animals is discouraged in the hadith and by the long tradition of Islamic authorities, especially Sunni ones. This has led to Islamic art being dominated by Islamic geometric patterns, calligraphy and the barely representational foliage patterns of the arabesque; but figurative art still has a strong tradition, especially on a small scale in private works for the home or palace."

Link

38 posted on 05/07/2015 1:11:54 PM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: FourtySeven

Mohammed was a well known religious warrior and those who were ‘adopted’ into his new religion made statues or paintings of him to worship. Some made statues and paintings of Allah.

He forbade any likenesses of himself or Allah to be allowed in places of worship. He destroyed them when he found them.

This part of his ideology was no different than the Christian one of not worshipping idols.

I believe that the idea of killing those who violate Mohammed’s ‘rule’ came from the Imam’s who used the Quran as a way to gain and keep power over others.

It is most similar to the witch-accusation and burning period of our (alleged) history. And serves the same purpose.


39 posted on 05/07/2015 7:38:33 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: glennaro

And stick a ham sandwich in his mouth when neutralized.


40 posted on 05/07/2015 7:41:11 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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