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N.C. cop sues Starbucks for $50,000 because of free-coffee burn
Toronto Sun ^ | MAY 5, 2015 | Postmedia Network

Posted on 05/05/2015 9:42:05 AM PDT by rickmichaels

A Raleigh, N.C., police officer is suing Starbucks for $50,000 because he says he spilled a free coffee in his lap and burned himself.

WRAL-TV reports Lt. Matthew Kohr suffered burns, blisters and emotional damage after the spill in 2012., his lawyers told court Monday.

Kohr claims the lid popped off the coffee and the injuries he received aggravated his Crohn's disease. He says he had to undergo surgery to remove part of his intestine.

The suit also alleges Kohr's wife, Melanie, as a result of the burn, suffered a loss of "emotional support, her social companion and her intimate partner."

Starbucks lawyers told court Kohr isn't subject to the same warranty because it was a free coffee, according to WRAL-TV.

The allegations haven't been proven in court.

Jury selection is underway and testimony is scheduled to begin later this week, the report says.


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To: proud American in Canada

There’s no arguing that she was hurt badly, I get that, but that was her fault, not McDonalds’.


61 posted on 05/05/2015 11:24:14 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: varyouga

“190 degrees is far above any reasonable temp”

195-205 is the optimal temperature for brewing coffee.
Flavor & odor rapidly dissipate from coffee over time.
For best results, brew at 200 and serve immediately, by the time it’s at “drinkable” temp flavor loss is minimal.
Of course, don’t be stupid with it - it’s coffee, HOT coffee, and holding it ‘twixt your legs is obviously dangerous.

If you don’t know coffee (obvious you don’t), I don’t want you getting in the way of me getting a good cup.


62 posted on 05/05/2015 11:28:26 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Hillary:polarizing/calculating/disingenuous/insincere/ambitious/inevitable/entitled/overconfident/se)
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To: DoughtyOne

The drink cools over time. Get it hot (best results when brewed at 200F), wait for it to cool; by the time you’re ready to drink it (pay cashier, carry stuff to table/car, etc.), it’s just getting down to drinkable.


63 posted on 05/05/2015 11:30:24 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Hillary:polarizing/calculating/disingenuous/insincere/ambitious/inevitable/entitled/overconfident/se)
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To: rickmichaels

Ring up the coffee at the register, and print a release from liability on the receipt. When you hand over your payment you ratify the agreement to not hold the vendor liable.

Lookee here. It is a government employee, a copper, who is employing the ambulance chasers, to both enrich themselves, in a ridiculous manner.

Kill all the lawyers first. Did I say ALL? Yes I said ALL.


64 posted on 05/05/2015 11:31:30 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: ctdonath2

Generally that’s true. If you have a container that keeps the product hot, that may not be true.

In this instance it sounds like he was using a cup from the establishment. That would cool rather quickly.

Evidently not quickly enough.

I don’t understand this inclination to file a suit over literally anything. This business wasn’t acting in a reckless manner. Accidents happen.

This guy had more than likely been drinking these drinks for a long time. He should know the risks.


65 posted on 05/05/2015 11:43:05 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: DoughtyOne

Sometimes customers do demand “reckless behavior”. Literally millions of people daily drive up to a window and demand (politely) a cup of near-boiling fluid in a flimsy paper cup which they will casually drink from in a moving vehicle - and some (which when discussing millions is a large number) who will even place it against sensitive body parts in what is obviously reckless behavior. Were McD’s et al to _stop_ serving such hot coffee, customers would be livid by the millions.


66 posted on 05/05/2015 11:57:05 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Hillary:polarizing/calculating/disingenuous/insincere/ambitious/inevitable/entitled/overconfident/se)
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To: ctdonath2

I agree with your take on that.


67 posted on 05/05/2015 12:18:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: ctdonath2

I know coffee and seriously do brew it with a hand thermometer. But I wait and don’t serve black coffee above 140


68 posted on 05/05/2015 12:25:00 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: rickmichaels

In for a penny, in for a pound.

I retired in 2002 after 30 years of service as an LEO. Gratuity was an offense punishable by immediate termination. Yes, it may seem harsh, but you could lose your job over accepting a free cup of coffee.

A sweet older lady and her husband brought a large freshly smoked salmon into my Sheriffs office and I had to turn it down. I was nearly in tears to have to turn down their kind offer. I LOVE SMOKED SALMON.

Maybe it’s just me, but I have long known that it’s never a good idea to get hot stuff anywhere near my junk.....oh, and never trust a paper cup.


69 posted on 05/05/2015 12:53:37 PM PDT by Gator113 (Cruz, Lee, and Sessions speak for me.... most anyone else is just noise.)
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To: proud American in Canada
She was severely hurt—I had no idea. That part really got lost in the reporting of the story.

Because it gets in the way of people getting up on their outrage high horse.

70 posted on 05/05/2015 1:01:57 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels." --Tom Waits)
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To: ctdonath2
Were McD’s et al to _stop_ serving such hot coffee, customers would be livid by the millions.

And yet in the wake of the lawsuit, McDonalds did reduce their serving temperature to 158 degrees and began using sturdier cups. Yet somehow they still manage to serve that coffee to millions and at least one person here says its still plenty hot.

71 posted on 05/05/2015 1:04:10 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels." --Tom Waits)
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To: ctdonath2
Coffee is hot. Good coffee is brewed at 200°F. People want coffee, good coffee, and they know it will be hot, know (from experience!) they must wait for it to cool down or they’ll burn themselves on it.

Yup. True. Part of the brewing process (with good coffee anyay) is basically a continuation of the roasting process. During the roasting process certain chemical reactions occur within the bean as it roasts. It is this process that produces caffeine. Raw coffee beans do not contain caffeine. As one continues to roast a bean, you will eventually reach a point where this reaction ends, and continued roasting will actually begin to break the caffeine molecules down. (Espresso can actually less caffeine than a lighter roast might have).

I roast my coffee for taste, and very seldom will I roast a bean as much as you commonly get at Starbucks and elsewhere.

From what I understand, the process of brewing finishes off this process and the hot water also brings out additional flavors from the grinds. You can't properly brew coffee with 120° water.

72 posted on 05/05/2015 1:15:41 PM PDT by zeugma ( The Clintons Could Find a Loophole in a Stop Sign)
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To: rickmichaels

Who told you to use a balm?

73 posted on 05/05/2015 1:41:37 PM PDT by xp38
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To: rickmichaels

Should have had his wife kiss it better. What a jerk. And a stupid jerk with a gun at that.


74 posted on 05/05/2015 2:06:41 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: raybbr

Idiot!


75 posted on 05/06/2015 5:22:56 AM PDT by HLPhat (This space is intentionaly blank.)
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