Posted on 05/05/2015 3:22:08 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
Marilyn Mosby 2Watch how quickly this case begins to collapse as the ‘real evidence’ begins to come to the surface. Activist, and State Attorney, Marilyn Mosby originally said:
[…] Officer Miller and Nero then placed Mr. Gray in a seated position and substantially found a knife clipped to the inside of his pants pocket. The blade of the knife was folded into the handle. The knife was not a switchblade and is lawful under Maryland law. These officers then removed the knife and placed it on the sidewalk.
[…] Lt. Rice, Officer Miller and Officer Nero failed to establish probable cause for Mr. Gray’s arrest as no crime had been committed by Mr. Gray. Accordingly Lt. Rice Officer MIller and Office Nero illegally arrested Mr. Gray. (link)
(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...
Yes because every lawyer and judge use proper capitalization when typing on a small phone.
/sarcasm.
I have yet to see a comment here, or anywhere else, stating that because he had a knife it’s alright that he’s dead. No one knows the true cause of death yet. Not, you. Not me. So for anyone to speculate as you did in your post is total nonsense. The prosecutor is an incompetent political animal. So is the mayor. Nothing they say can be trusted. We won’t know for some time what the facts are surrounding the death of Freddie Gray. Blaming the cops, or anyone else for that matter, at this juncture is nothing but an emotional response.
What if you are on probation?????
The guy ran long before the cops could have seen he had a knife. Wouldn’t their probable cause for pursuit be because a known drug felon fled when he saw a cop? I think the probably cause threshold is pretty low.
I’m not sure how Mosby conflated the knife and probable cause. Her position is kind of like saying “the driver didn’t blow a .08 so the arrest was bad and the officer should be prosecuted. If probable cause is disproven, the charges are dismissed or more likely the arrest isn’t made. In her zeal, she may have let them off the hook.
Read that posts of yours again.
That and the fact some of your posts are incoherent.
Do you ever use a smartphone with autocorrect?
If so you’d know what’s up. Also you can’t edit your comments on FR. I really wish they’d update this system. It’s very frustrating.
I guess it would depend on the terms of your probation. But I think it would be something your probation officer would have to bring up and get a warrant for.
Cops just can’t go find people and arrest them for probation violations that they aren’t aware of until after they arrest you. Well I guess the Supreme Court now would say that’s ok since they now allow them to break into your house and not know the law. So who knows anymore.
But the fact is they did something to this guy that caused him to die. Manslaughter or something like that is relevant here. 2nd degree murder is stupid, but cops charge citizens with extra crimes all the time.
I don’t like laws which infringe rights but unlike Obama and the Clintons I am not allowed to disregard them.
LOL I actually agree on the edit function on here.
Ok.Yet wordings and definitions are important. What constitutes a spring, and what assist?
Assist upon opening? Assist in keeping it closed?
And this is the real killer ---
I've seen police try to claim that the locking mechanism on a locking-when-open knife (which is a safety feature, btw) was a "spring", going so far as to focus upon the last rounded portion that the heel of the blade rather 'cams over' the mating surface of the the metal of the lock.
That the lock is pushed back while the blade is moving towards fixed position, then "springs" as it were back flush with the handle --- was the gist of the argument which police have attempted to make in courtrooms at various times and places throughout the nation.
They have little to lose in abusing the laws in such ways, other than to risk irritating a judge. Even if the argument fails, then they can proclaim innocence (as for false arrest) for reason that they (the police) then say they were innocently misinterpreting the laws as those are written.
We may be able to know that the arrest report states that the knife in question was illegal-- in other words the report says it was, but we have yet to know if in fact it was.
Twits on Twitter, consider:
The second amendment say that the knife is NOT illegal.
Well the investigative team that has evaluated the knife has determined it was illegal.
That’s an entirely different case. The officers arrest based on the laws that exist. It is not in their venue to determine Constitutionality. A separate case can be brought to determine that, but it has no bearing on this case.
Additionally, people on parole generally have their rights to possess weapons revoked as a condition of their parole.
Alright...investigative team. Who, or which one? The one from the political activist State Attorney's office?
I don't know that they can be trusted any more than what is written in police report can be entirely trusted.
What a mess, huh?
Were there any additional (and like-- maybe actual) details come out concerning the knife, other than the police seem to be saying one thing, and the State Attorney saying another?
Goobermint can say whatever. But can they prove it...
And now, ladies and popcorn grinding gentlemen, we have goobermint goobers in one corner, against goobermit po-leece in the other?
A defense attorney has gotta' be lovin' that part of it.
You need to go to theconservativetreehouse.com website. Yhe police taskforce in charge of the investigation have not only refuted the illegality of the Gray arrest, but they also have evidence that refutes the prosecutors claims that no medical assistance was requested for Gray. There is audio of the radioed requests to dispatch at several different intervals that are documented by the exact time of those requests.
Also, this prosecutor, by bypassing the grand jury has opened herself up to lawsuits. I hope they go after her bigtime!
It's been a while since I did so. That site is one of those which is so loaded with scripts, that unless I have hardly anything else open on the desktop (which is like next to never) all those scripts get all hinky-jinky within the harddrive I'm using (which is a fairly modern one) making it labor so hard it sounds like it might blow up.
In other words, I confess to not having waded through each and every word, of each and every article and claim, in order to sift out the true, from the possible, from the not very likely, and was hoping you had SOMETHING else that I could go on.
Cops will say all sorts of things to cover their own backsides. Sometimes, they even tell the truth.
If the knife itself was the only thing -- then legality of arrest may be questionable. Still, if the guy was on probation (which is likely?) then the laws and rules can drastically change...
I think I caught some of that. But putting ALL the details together in an logical timeframe, outside of any party's self-interests, in neutral fashion, I've yet to see -- and right about now don't feel like going fishing through possibly dozens of articles, which then would need be further evaluated.
But thanks for the replies nonetheless.
I don't know what the rules are there, but I suppose that aspect is yet something else those with keen interest in this case could look into further. What the real hell of the deal has seemed to be, according to much of the commentary I've encountered, is that she was awfully clumsy with the charges filed against the officers, so much so that when it goes to trail -- and officers likely exonerated from what she charged them with much due to how she over-charged them, etc., then regardless how it ends it will end badly.
Thank you, power-tripper black females with giant chips on the shoulders --- you all bring us all so much joy, sweetness and light/ What would we do without you?
She does seem to have crawled (ran as fast as she could) out onto something of a limb.
I read the reports and complaints made months ago about her, by those who had long served in the State Attorney's office.
She fired more than one State attorney when they were in the middle of relatively important criminal trials, if adequate presentation of State prosecution of those accused of violent felonies is important.
When she ran for office, she said fighting crime was important.
According to reports, right off the bat she screwed the pooch (if I can get away with mixing metaphors like that, lol).
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