Posted on 05/03/2015 7:59:56 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
Nearly fifteen years ago, Portugal had one of the worst drug problems in Europe, with 1 percent of the population addicted to heroin. They had tried a drug war, and the problem just kept getting worse. So they decided to do something radically different. They resolved to decriminalize all drugs...
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Selling drugs to a minor demands an immediate death sentence.
Why is it not just as bad or worse if they deal to the minors’ parents which then leads to the breakup of the minors’ family and maybe the death of the parent?
It is awful for everyone regardless of age. If you’re older it destroys families, relationships, the ability to provide and hold a job, and then the crime that follows such a person to feed their addiction habit. And then the community is not only down one formerly stable family, the kids are down a role model that could help them, and the community is up one more troubled family, potential criminal due to funding their drug habit.
> We should be invading countries that make drugs for sale on US streets.
Afghanistan’s Opium production — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanistan — could be wiped out with a few nukes, it would also make a huge dent in the funding for international terrorism [IIUC]... there’s a reason we haven’t done this: the US government makes too much money off of the War on Drugs, it garners too much power from the War on Drugs, and the War on Terror, using the expedience of “now” to justify ignoring Constitutional constraints (such as the NSA’s domestic espionage).
> We should be shooting people who run meth labs on the spot.
...it’s funny how the “law and order”-types are the first to throw out the law and act like thugs when the law gets in the way of their dreams of utopia... heck, insofar as that is concerned there’s little difference between that and the leftist’s utopia-dreams.
You are literally cheering for giving [up] the power that will be used to destroy you.
You're proving my point. If we nuked Afghanistan's drug production, (and that of other drug producing nations) we would go a long way toward solving our problems with drugs and drug dealers.
You are literally cheering for giving [up] the power that will be used to destroy you.
No, because I'm not a drug dealer. I also support vigilante justice for drug dealers btw. I think a parent has every right to get his/her gun and blow away a dealer who sold to his kid.
Drugs are generally hideous. I’m not user, nor condone its use.
WoD is an industry, and manned by honorable people, but it’s still a massive industry.
Being a conservative libertarian, I’m interested in the smallest degree of government control possible. This isn’t a comfortable paradigm for most. So yeah, there’s the risk you mentioned.
>> I think a parent has every right to get his/her gun and blow away a dealer who sold to his kid.
I don’t have a problem with that providing there’s justifiable proof. But I’m not supporting your fantasies of cleansing the World.
No offense but your seeming minimization of “yeah, the risk” is a big part of the problem of why its so entrenched today.
To be honest if swat was used exactly how it was sold to us - which it has not been - hardcore drug dealers and gangs would have been destroyed. And there would have been so much fear instilled almost nobody would seriously consider it worth it to be a hardcore drug dealer.
My point about “the risk” concerns the general growth of govt and the comfort of security it brings. I’m not dismissing the concerns you raised.
Don’t forget my original point regarding aggressive consequences for those that would otherwise deal to minors.
Your words were “executed in the spot”. You wrote it, not me.
Own it.
Under the section where defending the nation is authorized. Drugs are an existential (that means endangering our existence) threat, therefore destroying them is well within the mandate of constitutional authorization.
You seem to have a deficit in understanding about the social factors at work which resulted in all these things you mention. These events are systemic, and a result of conditions which are innate.
I don't want to get into a long explanation, but I will point out that if you look at cities that are extremely Liberal, the one common factor is great wealth and prosperity.
San Fransisco is extremely Liberal because it is extremely rich. Same with New York, Boston, Chicago, etc.
Wealth drives Liberalism. Liberalism is mostly a consequence of it, especially in successive generations who did not have to work hard to earn the wealth.
You can change your thinking all you want, but you will still not be able to stave off the tide, and that's what it is; A societal tide.
End the War on Drugs.
Because we all want a collapsed society and a consequent dictatorship!
So you pull over, receive the money from your son, and drive away. Whereas you are instantly shot for being a drug dealer. I mean, what other reason could you have to accept money from a young kid in the middle of the inner city other than to sell him drugs?
The Libertarians have been spreading the propaganda for years that the Socialist Policies of the Socialist government of Portugal are "working" at least according to the Socialist Government of Portugal, and of course the Libertarians are all too happy to spread this lie so long as it supports their dope legalizing agenda.
I've seen contrary data, but I am too disgusted with this successful propaganda tactic to bother looking it up right now. Needless to say, what is occurring in Portugal is a propaganda success, but not an actual success.
Right, because drug dealers during a condition of legalized drugs could never possibly get rich.
Ever hear of this nation called "England"? Yeah, they weren't at all rich during the Victorian era.
Yeah, you just keep making up this dumb libertarian stuff while demonic drug dealing criminals come for our kids’s souls.
I wish you felt as strong or stronger about that as you apparently do on this.
Those people here who aren't specifically dope smokers have simply bought into the propaganda that has been endlessly spread by those who advocate drug legalization for their own personal dope smoking.
They spread so much bullsh*t (Like the "war on drugs" costs more than not having a war on drugs) that people accept it as true.
Be a good parent. I raised two kids and they never touched the stuff.
Do you know what is FAR WORSE than black market drugs? It's free market drugs.
For most of this nation's history there was no regulations on drugs. Americans built a vibrant and strong nation.
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