Posted on 05/02/2015 11:42:13 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
The GOPs destructive Vietnam mythology: How the rights self-glorifying delusions led to decades of avoidable war
It only took about five years from the fall of Saigon on April 30, 1975, for the American right to succeed in burying the moment under mounds of revisionist horse shit. Ronald Reagan, speaking at a campaign appearance in the summer of 1980, said,
It is time that we recognized that [the American War in Vietnam] was, in truth, a noble cause We dishonor the memory of 50 thousand young Americans who died in that cause when we give way to feelings of guilt as if we were doing something shameful.
Reagans letting-down-the-troops angle was a brilliant rhetorical tactic. According to the story he and his fellow conservatives told, the only problem with the Vietnam War was that we hadnt let the soldiers win it. By the time he took office, Reagans conscience-free take on the war had gained traction among a public eager for easy absolution and a restoration of Americas standing in the world. It would go on to serve as convenient justification for other, similarly doomed wars of adventure in the years to come.
The story of the fall of Saigon as the right tells it is not one of American hubris getting its comeuppance via popular revolution or withdrawal of broad support at home, but one of sinister betrayal by spineless bureaucrats, cowed by selfish, pampered, troop-hating radicals. Americas failure was not one of dubious moral judgement on the part of its ruling class, but rather moral turpitude on the part of its young people. Wall Street Journal editorialist Dorothy Rabinowitz saw the era as one of wild excess self-glorification and narcissism by an incredibly spoiled, self-indulgent generation .who were taught to think everything they say is right, a perfect articulation of the self-justifying canard at the heart of what has become our popular understanding of the war, and of the similarly upside-down, false histories now being spun about Iraq and Afghanistan.
Throughout the Reagan/Bush years, right-wing fabulists worked tirelessly to convince the public that the peace marches and race riots of the 60s had done more damage to this country than the war and racism that sparked them. That idealistic, pot-smoking, occasionally idiotic and arrogant teenagers, along with a small number of genuine radicals on the left, were more harmful than the paranoid, war-mongering, racist, sexist, corrupt, Constitution-subverting presidents, politicians, generals and police who spied on, tear-gassed, beat, slandered, suppressed and murdered countless numbers of their fellow citizens, not to mention 3.4 million people in Indochina, and the 58,000 American soldiers sent to kill them and die for no reason.
The rights willfully amnesiac version of the 60s is such conventional wisdom now that even ostensibly liberal journalists cant seem to help resorting to its tired tropes. In interviews given a few years ago while promoting his documentary about 1968, Tom Brokaw defined the era with a hypothetical, illustrative scenario: A man works hard and plays by the rules all his life, raises himself out of the working class and by the 60s is raising two kids in a comfortable home. He sits down to dinner one night to be told by his teenage daughter, whos wearing, in Brokaws words, a blouse without a brassiere, that shes on the pill, and, by his son with hair down to his shoulders, that he shouldnt worry, because he knows how to get out of the draft.
For Brokaw and other mainstream journalists, the defining traumas of the 60s were inflicted by protest-marching, draft-dodging, long-haired sons, and braless daughters on the pill. (Oh, and yes, there were also some assassinations, and they were bad, too, in a generic, completely decontextualized sort of way.) The worst injury of the decade was to the delicate sensibilities of hardworking, middle-class white men.
This vision of the era has become so entrenched its almost impossible to imagine a figure like Brokaw describing an opposite, and far more essential version of the same scene: one where, say, a young man of draft age thinks that defending a corrupt dictatorship in a civil war on the other side of the world goes against everything for which his fathers generation supposedly fought. One where maybe its the son whos offended, by the way his father treats his wife, or talks about his one black co-worker, or seems so untroubled by his job at Dow Chemical. Or maybe a scene where the draft dodger is named Cheney and he tells his dad he has other priorities than fighting communism. But, unless Norman Lear has a sudden career resurgence, that kind of restoration of sanity is not going to happen any time soon.
Thats too bad, because the hard lessons of the 60s would come in handy in 2015, if they werent obscured by the rights self-serving fables. It was only a few years ago that George W. Bush said about the fall of Vietnam that, The price of Americas withdrawal was paid by millions of innocent citizens whose agonies would add to our vocabulary new terms, like boat people, re-education camps and killing fields. It was an obscene and almost psychedelic distortion of reality.
With the secret, unconstitutional bombing of Cambodia by Richard Nixon, the United States knocked over the first of the only dominoes that would ever fall in South East Asia, and dragged Cambodia into a civil war that led to the killing fields of the Khmer Rouge. Without the Vietnam War, Pol Pot would almost certainly never have come to power. His regime was a creation of our war, in the same way that ISIS is the offspring of our occupation of Iraq in 2003. The Killing Fields only ended after the Vietnam War, when the Vietnamese, our former enemies, overthrew the Cambodian tyrant. But none of those facts were troubling enough to Bush to keep him from spinning the story his own way. Not because they arent true, but because they arent known anymore. Because we hardly ever hear about them.
The alternate-reality conservative narrative of those times needs to be confronted and challenged. Americas capacity for self-refection being what it is, a popular reckoning with the truth is not going to happen any time soon, but taking even baby steps in that direction might help us avoid repeating the moral mistakes of the Vietnam Era: the concocting of grand paranoid fantasies like the domino theory and the Bushies clash of civilizations, waging wars of choice against countries that have done us no harm, cultures we know nothing about and whose languages we refuse to learn, in the self-glorifying delusion that its our destiny to save them from themselves. It might keep us from wallowing in self-indulgent self-pity, and force us to acknowledge the damage weve done to ourselves and others.
The important, lasting injury we did to ourselves in Vietnam wasnt inflicted by American protesters or draft-dodgers. Despite the way theyre depicted in popular culture, those dissidents were, for the most part, mainstream, middle-class families, sickened by a war they watched on their televisions every night (as opposed to the Iraq War, which was rendered invisible by an administration that learned the political lessons of Vietnam all too well.)
My parents, both products of working-class families and graduates of a tuition-free public university, marched often with other suburban families. They never carried the Vietcong flag, or saw anyone else do it. They never committed any acts of violence. They did have rocks thrown at them by construction workers, and they were spit on (unlike the humiliated, returning soldiers of right-wing legend) but they kept marching, because they thought that was the right (and American) thing to do.
Their story is absent from the right-wing telling of their times. One of the central themes of that telling is that the excesses of the sex-crazed, drug-addled left helped create the modern conservative movement, and no doubt thats true. But that movement has succeeded, in part, because it has grossly exaggerated the excesses of the left and washed its own from collective memory.
Isnt the self-indulgent behavior of the three-martini generation at least relevant to the discussion? Didnt members of that generation, led by the alcoholic Richard Nixon, commit the far more reckless and destructive acts of the time period?
Very few influential right-wing figures of the time have reexamined those moral failures. For Pat Buchanan, the years of My Lai, and the Chicago police riot were years when conservatives got to point at these kids and say Is that who you want running your country? His defining memory is, when they had the riots at Columbia and Mark Rudd took over the campus. I wrote a statement [for Nixon] denouncing these over- privileged kids for what they were doing Let me tell you, they didnt have any support in Middle America.
This unsurprising lack of reflection and remorse on the part of conservatives has been aided and abetted for years by the he said-she said ethos of modern journalism, which confuses evenhandedness with objectivity (and is itself one of the more insidious legacies of the 1960s.) It leads the public discussion toward a subtle, often unconscious, ratification of a false history, a history that has in turn been the basis for much of the success conservatives have enjoyed over the past 40 years.
The real history of the Vietnam era is too valuable to ignore . The 60s was not only a time when, as the cliché has it, the social fabric was torn. It was, more profoundly, a time when the social contract was torn, by our leaders. The injury those leaders inflicted on American life was far more acute, and more definitive, than the reaction to that injury by their children.
And the ironic thing is that JFK was a staunch anti-communist.
“The liberal Left will do its best to lie about that piece of history but I lived through it and I remember everything.”
So do I, brother. (USAF: 1970-1974)
JFK and LBJ were Republicans?
Horowitz is always a prize.
Doesn’t it seem odd that the best the lefties can do is go back to their halcyon days of the Vietnam war to reassert their political relevance? Yet they claim to be the party of “new” ideas?
We won the Vietnam War in 1973.
Long ago, Peter Rodman demolished that old canard.
By today's standards (JMHO), JFK would properly be classified as slightly to the right of a Rubio or Jeb Bush.
LBJ? Only allegiance he had was to what was best for LBJ. If he thought it would make him some votes, power or money, he'd be talkin' (at least) like he was more Conservative than anybody.
...and what would he do when/if he got into office? Just exactly what he did back in the 60's.
(People I knew down in LBJ's original House District firmly maintained that "he's so crooked, when he dies they won't have to dig to bury him; they can just run him into the ground like an auger.")
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....Back to this article, I have to admit that I'm a bit surprised.
Must be some really, truly deeply frightened ol' commies out there if they're going to start beating this drum again. (Guess the indoctrination didn't take so well and now they've got to spend the next 18 months in a Refresher mode.)
....don't have to "Refresh" me.
Naval Air '65-'76
I only scanned it, as it was utterly devoid of any content other than the writer’s juvenile scolding.
Yes, the French were defeated at Dien Bien Phu - May 07, 1954 and JFK decided to involve us in the remnants of a Vietnamese civil war. As a former US Naval officer, he decided to send in Seals as advisers to the South Vietnamese armed forces. Eventually "mission creep" brought the numbers to some 30,000 "advisers".
After his death in Dallas LBJ took over and staged an "incident" in the gulf of Tonkin as an excuse to expand the involvement to a full blown war. The rest is history.
Regards,
GtG
A movement that included Michael Medved.
Below is part of Kengor's dare to liberals:
As to where McCarthy was right, I recommend that liberals read the extraordinary 2007 book by M. Stanton Evans, Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies. The material on China is astounding. The information on what really happened with McCarthy's notorious list of communists is stunning. The section on Edward R. Murrow is maddening. The chapter The Caveman in the Sewer is infuriating. Evans listed numerous names of communists who did terrible damage.
I urge all open-minded Freepers to read this book.
“Yes, the French were defeated at Dien Bien Phu - May 07, 1954 and JFK decided to involve us in the remnants of a Vietnamese civil war.”
Well not exactly. We had Military Assistance Advisory Group officers in Vietnam as early as 1950 under Truman. When the French bugged out Eisenhower increased the MAAG presence.
Eisenhower sent advisers but no combat troops. The fighting was a classic Communist insurgency that targeted and murdered local village officials. It was sponsored and financed by the Soviets who called it a “civil war” in the the propaganda campaign they waged in the United States.
There were only 700-800 MAAG in South Vietnam as Eisenhower left office. The communist insurgency was growing and Kennedy began sending more American advisers, including Special Forces. Kennedy created MACV and ramped up the American presence to around 16,000.
In November 1963 Kennedy stood by and allowed a coup against South Vietnam President Diem. Diem was assassinated, then Kennedy was assassinated, and Lyndon Johnson inherited a rudderless South Vietnam. In 1964 South Vietnam had seven different leaders and was foundering. LBJ decided to send in American combat troops and the big buildup began.
What didn’t begin was a strategy and a willingness to invade North Vietnam and put an end to their ability to make war against the South, the strategy that solved the problem of Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany. Neither LBJ nor Nixon were willing to fight the Vietnam war to decisive conclusion.
IOW, Kerry for President. Salon prints the swill of partisan media shills.
by going to and opening relations with China, Nixon flanked the Russians in vietnam and eliminated the need for the war
Mainstream Media Try to Burn a Book
http://www.aim.org/aim-report/mainstream-media-try-to-burn-a-book/
http://www.amazon.com/Blacklisted-History-Senator-McCarthy-Americas-ebook/dp/B000W94GOU/
Lots of hate and cognitive dissonance from a nutjob.
Thank you for clarifying my somewhat shortened version of events. I was much younger then and newly married and attending an engineering college. I wasn't paying much attention to the finer points of politics at the time. I was sweating out the draft for the most part. I was called down to the induction center and classified 1-A even though I'm blind in one eye. I was 1-A through the entire conflict and was never called up. I was passed over in the lotteries as well.
Regards,
GtG
PS I knew there was something wrong w/ the time line as the French bailed in 1957 and JFK was killed about 1963. I never realized that Truman was responsible for involving us in the fray.
Thanks again!
I am a bit younger than you but I lived it as well. I do not remember it the way the left portrays it. I do remember a young man who graduated high school with my sister who never came home.
Reagan was Governor of California, he had no influence about Vietnam. This is author is just whacked out crazy
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