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Baltimore prosecutor: Probable cause to file criminal charges in Gray’s death
Washington Post ^ | 5-1-15 | Lynh Bui and Dana Hedgpeth

Posted on 05/01/2015 7:56:27 AM PDT by markomalley

State’s Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby said Friday she has probable cause to file criminal charges in the much publicized death of 25-year-old Freddie Gray who died while in police custody.

Six officers, including a lieutenant and a sergeant, have been suspended after the incident. Gray suffered a spinal injury and died after riding in a police transport van that made several stops.

On Thursday, Baltimore’s police officials said they turned over their initial report to prosecutors — a day earlier than expected.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: badcopnodonut; baltimore; barackobama; ericholder; freddiegray; holder; justiceforfreddie; lorettalynch; lynch; obama; thugcops; thugdefender
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To: iowacornman

I believe the back surgery story has been debunked...


361 posted on 05/01/2015 11:20:59 AM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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To: KC_Conspirator
How? Take a look at the laundry list of charges, on 6 people, and you tell me how in a little over 2 weeks that they went through a thorough investigation of the situation. The medical report came out just yesterday, the ink is not even dry yet.

The most time-consuming part of any investigation is identifying, tracking down and interviewing witnesses. Since the vast majority of this incident happened in the police transport van, the universe of witnesses was quite small.

Given that I'm sure whatever team they had investigating this matter was given all the resources they need, I'm not surprised they finished the investigation so soon after they received the medical report. I've been part of much more complex investigations that took just as little time - throw enough people at an investigation, and things can move very quickly.

They likely had a working theory of what happened, based on their inteviews of the officers, other transportee(s), and any others, and they really just needed to see if the medical report was consistent with their findings. Once the medical report came in and was consistent with their findings, it was just a matter of dotting their i's and crossing their t's, so to speak.

362 posted on 05/01/2015 11:21:34 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: cripplecreek

From her demeanor, I suspect she is motivated to go for the most serious charges she can and hope she get get enough evidence to convict. If that’s the case that is a very bad idea as it will result in massive riots, worse then Monday’s because she tried to score political points.


363 posted on 05/01/2015 11:22:24 AM PDT by matt04
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To: Mister Baredog
Yeah, I know the feeling. It's all over 20 years ago now. I'll tell you, though, I have some GOOD riot stories. Wilshire was kind of where the wave of looting crested, and we stood in front of our apartment building watching looters repeatedly trying to get into the Adray's appliance store down on the corner. At one point I had to take my dog out and got up to the corner at the other end of the block, only to see a four-man SWAT team peering around the next corner.

A few blocks away, down at Fairfax and Olympic, there was a little strip mall with liquor store and a gun store called Gun Heaven. As soon as the trouble started, the gun store owner called in all his employees to defend the place. At one point, gangbangers told them to leave, but they refused and the gangs left the whole strip mall alone. So on Saturday, when stuff had settled down, the liquor store next door was the only place anywhere around where you could buy beer. And you NEEDED a beer at that point.

364 posted on 05/01/2015 11:24:42 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels." --Tom Waits)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative; KC_Conspirator
How? Take a look at the laundry list of charges, on 6 people, and you tell me how in a little over 2 weeks that they went through a thorough investigation of the situation. The medical report came out just yesterday, the ink is not even dry yet.

.....and no tox reports yet.

366 posted on 05/01/2015 11:25:26 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: KC_Conspirator
I love the fact that Freddie Grays family lawyer is large contributor to the DA Mosby.

So you believe that political donations are inherently corrupting to the system?

367 posted on 05/01/2015 11:26:21 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels." --Tom Waits)
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To: HenryArmitage

It’s going to just be a continuance of the “Show”.....next will be if or not a trail will play out before the cameras. If it goes to trial.


368 posted on 05/01/2015 11:28:12 AM PDT by caww
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To: Fido969

“I’m a conservative, but I don’t truck with the idiots who advocate conservative positions without regard to reality.”

I know, sadly there are a few truckloads of them on this site, and things like this cause them to jump up and scream bloody murder tying themselves into logic pretzels trying to spin reality to fit an ideological bent rather than face facts.

As I’ve said elsewhere I’ve seen people here defend people shooting others in the back for playing ding dong dash here.... I’ve seen people here refuse to accept that pedophile murdered a little girl not because the evidence didn’t prove it but because the parents of the little girl didn’t behave they way they thought they should in their lives.

These idiots unfortunately pop up, don’t use their intellect or reason at all, and will cling to any insanity they can to hold onto a political motivated view.

I’ve been called all sorts of names and things by these folks over the years when I call them to task for it, but they always show up again next time something like this happens.


369 posted on 05/01/2015 11:30:19 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: caww

Possibly.

But it begs the question:

If she is such a unbiased no nonsense prosecutor, where are her comments and quotes of her outrage directed at the Mayor for publicly instructing law enforcement to give “Space” to those who wish to destroy?

The Mayor’s comments should have made this prosecutor recoil in legitimate outrage.


370 posted on 05/01/2015 11:30:21 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: markomalley
Three words: change of venue.

There is no chance this trial will be held in Baltimore, because any jury there will be hopelessly biased in favor finding guilt.

This prosecutor is simply trying to placate the rioters. SECOND DEGREE MURDER?! I guess that was the compromise after summary execution was rejected.

371 posted on 05/01/2015 11:30:42 AM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

That is a myopic view, and quite (woefully) ignorant of criminal investigation and legal procedure. I guess you are ready to convict now, are you not Roland Frieseler?


372 posted on 05/01/2015 11:32:33 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: dragnet2

Bottom line...she is not on trial...


373 posted on 05/01/2015 11:32:44 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
As mentioned prior.....is this going to be a seat belt issue when it comes down to the wire?

I don't think so. When it comes down to the wire, I think this is going to be a "course of conduct" type case, which are often the most difficult to win for a prosecutor. In other words, from where I'm sitting (and take this with a grain of salt, as I'm neither a prosecutor nor familiar with MD law), I would think that the prosecution is not going to argue that any single act of the police officers was an act of murder/manslaughter/etc., but rather that, taken a a whole, their whole course of conduct--from unlawfully arresting him, to placing him in the van in restraints and without a seatbelt to repeatedly refusing his requests for medical attention, to placing him back in the van in restraints, on his stomach, without a seatbelt, etc.--constitutes murder/manslaughter/etc under MD law.

The only exception to that (based on the timeline as presented by the DA) is the last stop in the van, when the officers saw that he was not responsive, and proceeded to take him to the precinct instead of summoning medical assistance (or taking him directly to the hospital). I could see the prosecution arguing that the officers' failure to summon medical attention at that particular time was a criminal act.

374 posted on 05/01/2015 11:32:59 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Iron Munro

I noticed that too.
Her speech was for justice except for the cops.

She has already tried, and convicted them and no wonder she stated she never wanted an outside investigation.

She and the prosecutor had this all ready to appease the rioters, black community and get a bit of social justice.


375 posted on 05/01/2015 11:33:28 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Are you kidding? If this were any other case, she would be asked to recuse herself.


376 posted on 05/01/2015 11:33:55 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: DCBryan1

It smells to high heaven. Another racially charged case.


377 posted on 05/01/2015 11:35:20 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Texas Songwriter

That worried me, too.


378 posted on 05/01/2015 11:36:39 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

You are making a “willful suspension of belief” argument.

City’s paid out millions for rough rides, but the cops who got the perp in the paddy wagon, decided that after getting him in shackles and handcuffs and dragging him to the wagon that getting him in a seatbelt would be too much trouble.

Yea, keep living in that dream world. No way, no effing way any cop in that department has not been given explicit instructions to ensure that perps are properly restrained and buckled... not a damned way in hell, not a damned way in heaven or hell that the policy to ensure folks are buckled was not part of SOP and reinforced so many times the cops were sick of hearing it.

Based on the evidence to date, the charging of those involved is the right call. No calculus where you wind up with a determination of homocide with no way you can argue justifiable and then as a DA not bring charges if you are following the evidence.

Court case and further investigation may bring about further evidence not yet known, but with a homocide determination and not a single shred of evidence to call it justifiable, charges are the right call.


379 posted on 05/01/2015 11:37:23 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: KC_Conspirator
That is a myopic view, and quite (woefully) ignorant of criminal investigation and legal procedure.

Not at all. I'm actually quite aware of criminal investigation and legal procedure. Often it moves slowly. But, when the people in charge of an investigation want it to move quickly, it can move quickly.

I guess you are ready to convict now, are you not Roland Frieseler?

Nope. Not at all. I am ready for these officers to have their day in court, zealously represented by competent counsel, in a trial that respects and protects their Constitutional right to due process.

380 posted on 05/01/2015 11:38:01 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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