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To: caww
As mentioned prior.....is this going to be a seat belt issue when it comes down to the wire?

I don't think so. When it comes down to the wire, I think this is going to be a "course of conduct" type case, which are often the most difficult to win for a prosecutor. In other words, from where I'm sitting (and take this with a grain of salt, as I'm neither a prosecutor nor familiar with MD law), I would think that the prosecution is not going to argue that any single act of the police officers was an act of murder/manslaughter/etc., but rather that, taken a a whole, their whole course of conduct--from unlawfully arresting him, to placing him in the van in restraints and without a seatbelt to repeatedly refusing his requests for medical attention, to placing him back in the van in restraints, on his stomach, without a seatbelt, etc.--constitutes murder/manslaughter/etc under MD law.

The only exception to that (based on the timeline as presented by the DA) is the last stop in the van, when the officers saw that he was not responsive, and proceeded to take him to the precinct instead of summoning medical assistance (or taking him directly to the hospital). I could see the prosecution arguing that the officers' failure to summon medical attention at that particular time was a criminal act.

374 posted on 05/01/2015 11:32:59 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
You speak of this as if you believe what the prosecutor has stated in her findings. I do not. I think we'll find much more to consider as this plays out. Have you been listening to “Mike” speaking on the Police officers behalf on Fox? (HE is an officer in Baltimore) He's on with Kelly, who imo asks him the right questions.

Tonight we learned it was not uncommon for Gray to make a scene when arrested and common this occurs with repeat offenders in order to look tough etc. among his peers and should any relay he'd been arrested and passed that information, but that once Gray is in the precinct he calms downs and in fact has helped them solve cases and make arrests in the past. "Mike" is very interesting to listen to when Kelly has him on...and since she has been an attorney really does ask things well....I find it very interesting listening to this guy...who BTW they conceal, of course, his identity.

Keeping in mind I listen carefully to 'the flow of language', words he's using ....etc. He seems very confident and calm. I also noticed that he doe not measure tightly, it's very free flowing for the most part. He is believable in other words.

522 posted on 05/01/2015 9:54:44 PM PDT by caww
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