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Air Force: If A-10s stay, F-16s headed to the boneyard
Stars and Stripes ^ | April 28, 2015 | By Travis J. Tritten

Posted on 04/28/2015 8:24:45 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

The Air Force will send some perfectly fine fighter jets to the boneyard or delay its F-35 Lightning II rollout for a year if Congress blocks retirement of the A-10 Thunderbolt, according to a document recently provided to military oversight committees.

The tradeoffs would occur at Hill Air Force Base in Utah, due to limited number of personnel to maintain the A-10s, F-16 Fighting Falcons and the first advanced F-35 joint strike fighters slated to arrive later this year, the service told lawmakers.

The Air Force and Congress have been grappling over the future of the A-10, known as the Warthog, for the past year. Hill recently unveiled plans to mothball 18 of the aircraft. The service wants to eliminate the close-air-support aircraft to save money but the House Armed Services Committee said it will vote this week on a draft defense budget that will bar the move.

“The Air Force, if compelled to retain the A-10, does not possess a sufficient number of experienced maintainers to sustain the original Hill AFB conversion plan [to] stand up [a] new F-35 fighter squadron and then convert two F-16 units,” the service wrote to the committee in an unclassified talking paper obtained by Stars and Stripes. The undated document was recently provided to House and Senate armed service committees, congressional staff said.

The F-16s were to be relocated to other bases – Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri and Fort Wayne Air National Guard Base in Indiana – to replace A-10 units and make room for the F-35s.

Instead, the jets would be sent to the “boneyard” storage area at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Arizona, the service said.

If lawmakers try to block F-16s from the boneyard, the lack of qualified maintenance personnel would delay the F-35 from flying at Hill for “at least a year,” it said.

The Air Force has repeatedly asked Congress to support the A-10 retirement, which it says will save about $4.2 billion over the next four years and allow the fleet to be modernized. The A-10 has been flying since the 1970s and is now deployed in Iraq and Europe.

Lt. Col. Christopher Karns, an Air Force spokesman, said it is premature to speculate on what actions the service will take before Congress hashes out the annual defense budget.

“The Air Force has actively explored a range of options to address its maintainer shortage,” Karns wrote in an email. “An inability to divest A-10s will impact the ability to provide experienced maintainers to support the F-35 mission.”

The chairman of House Armed Services released his draft of the annual defense budget Monday and it included a measure fully funding the A-10 program, though it would allow the Air Force to mothball a maximum of 18 aircraft.

However, Rep. Martha McSally, R-Ariz., said she plans to introduce an amendment Wednesday that will prohibit any retirement of the aircraft.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: a10; aviation; f16; lawndart
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1 posted on 04/28/2015 8:24:45 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; ...

Active Duty ping.


2 posted on 04/28/2015 8:25:58 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

How about we cut some ‘gibsmedat’ programs and properly fund the military?


3 posted on 04/28/2015 8:26:11 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Jet Jaguar

Call their bluff. Now.

L


4 posted on 04/28/2015 8:26:29 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Fine. Let the problematic F-35 program get its act together to replace the F-16 fleet. The A-10’s have a need and are both economical and cost effective, and the A-10’s are the best “choice” to fulfill the combat role they are being tasked to.
5 posted on 04/28/2015 8:27:53 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Maybe send the retired Warthogs to Israel?

I’m certain they can use them.


6 posted on 04/28/2015 8:28:32 PM PDT by Bobalu (If we live to see 2017 we will be kissing the ground)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Well, yeah. Drop the 35. It appears to be on the way to achieving white elephant status. It is billed as a jack of all trades and is apparently not excellent in any.


7 posted on 04/28/2015 8:28:34 PM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Why can’t they use McClellan AFB?


8 posted on 04/28/2015 8:29:17 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: NorthMountain

That is a much better plan but youre dreaming

Id like to see the herd thinned butvthat is a pipe dream as well


9 posted on 04/28/2015 8:29:33 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: arthurus

That’s a zillion dollars down the tube. Who’s in charge of this stuff?


10 posted on 04/28/2015 8:29:39 PM PDT by dp0622 (Franky Five Angels: "Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.")
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To: Jet Jaguar

Our way or we fire all the police and fire emegency.


11 posted on 04/28/2015 8:30:16 PM PDT by MaxMax (Call the local GOP and ask how you can support CRUZ for POTUS, Make them talk!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I just can’t imagine no F-16s. Truly a great versatile craft.


12 posted on 04/28/2015 8:31:29 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Let the Air Force brass spend 30 days on the ground, in the shit, so they can make an informed decision.


13 posted on 04/28/2015 8:32:57 PM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Give them to the Army, Navy, and Marine Corps. Take the money out of the Air Forces budget to pay for the transfer.


14 posted on 04/28/2015 8:35:12 PM PDT by BBell
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To: Jet Jaguar

The Warthog is a most excellent flying cannon platform, able to operate in close support of ground troops, and can destroy most armored vehicles on the ground with a short burst of its Gatling machine gun, a “point and shoot” REAL assault weapon.

Besides, it can carry a pretty useful supply of air-to-ground missiles, great for breaking up motorized columns in convoy.

And it can hop in and out of short runways and under what would be extremely adverse conditions for most other aircraft. Also, it has almost unbelievable airworthiness even under serious damage, as it has multiple redundant air surface control mechanisms. Should the hydraulics fail for any reason, it can still cripple home with an underlying mechanical control system. There is even a crank-down for the landing gear, should it be needed.

Feed this beast. It is the right aerial assault weapon for close-in fighting.


15 posted on 04/28/2015 8:36:11 PM PDT by alloysteel (It isn't science, it's law. Rational thought does not apply.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

“the A-10 retirement, which it says will save about $4.2 billion over the next four years”

A billion a year? In military terms, that’s zero with a rounding error.


16 posted on 04/28/2015 8:38:00 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
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To: arthurus

Drop the 35. Keep the 16. Keep the A-10. Build more 22s.


17 posted on 04/28/2015 8:38:36 PM PDT by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: alloysteel

Sounds like a devastating weapon!! good :0


18 posted on 04/28/2015 8:40:51 PM PDT by dp0622 (Franky Five Angels: "Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.")
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To: Jet Jaguar

Do it. The F-16 is fragile and they’ve already pretty much devoted it to ground strike.


19 posted on 04/28/2015 8:42:04 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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F-16 ping.


20 posted on 04/28/2015 8:42:36 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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